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ed good #238996 08/14/11 05:12 PM
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any parker experts care to comment?


keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Originally Posted By: mc
if you put pins in the holes you wont get the halos also if you back up the locks and action with steel blocks the edges wont cool as fast and have the grey.but it wont have the same look as cyanide.and i don't agree with edgood the sky is falling


mc:

I always block the parts in the crucible, sometimes just more halo's than at other times.....also, always improving my fixtures and making new ones ...........that's part of the fun........thanks.......





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guess not? anyway, i just read in one of ed muderlak's books that remington did try to duplicate parker's hardening and coloring processes, but gave it up in favor of the cyanide chemical process. they probably also gave that up too, when everybody in the room suddenly died? old ed told me he knew a guy in mass who did kill himself trying to harden and color using cyanide.


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did he drop the crucible on his head?it is a lot cheaper the use cyanide.pa24 i like the colors on the marlin and lc smith.someone on this board said that both guns will shatter if they are left in the same room together.old ED said he was abducted by aliens.i wonder if that's why all the doublegun makers went out of business all the employees died from the hardening process.im sure if it was that deadly the news papers from back in the day must be full of mass dieoffs in the gun trade.

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Ron's Gunsmithing and Williams Gunsite both offer Cyanide Case Color hardening, there are others. (1600-1750 °F) The idea is simple. Add carbon to the steel, the same as the bone charcoal method.

http://www.ronsgunshop.com/pricing.html

http://www.williamsgunsight.com/gunsmith_service_michigan.htm#METAL%20WORK

Old methods of hardening required heating the metal red hot and quenching in linseed oil, see the video Master Gunsmith of Colonial Williamsburg for an example. This usually produced a yellow tinted case color.

Products like Kasenit and Cherry Red are used today for hardening without coloring. They both require the part to be heated to 1000 °F.

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=6465

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=119479

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_hardening#Cyaniding

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Any thoughts on what method might have been used to attain these CCH colours on this Model 100 SKB/Ithaca?






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Originally Posted By: ninepointer
Any thoughts on what method might have been used to attain these CCH colours on this Model 100 SKB/Ithaca?



Cyanide CCH.....

Cheers,


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Ed you might need to start burning cyanide in yer torch ?

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Gotta love it, every few months, the folks that do it wrong, try to justify how doing it wrong is correct and doing it correctly is wrong.

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Originally Posted By: Mike Hunter
Gotta love it, every few months, the folks that do it wrong, try to justify how doing it wrong is correct and doing it correctly is wrong.

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He likes the attention..................he thinks that torching frames and creating fish eyes, burning the wood etc. is an attractive and safe thing.........and he advertises "close to original factory colors" and "a joy to behold" etc.........he would have made a lot more money selling ladies shoes...............


Doug



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