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i say again: i do not trust anyone professing to be an expert at the high heat bone charcoal shotgun receiver re hardening trade. i have seen to many botched jobs to have any confidence in their consistency.
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Not sure what restoring a gun to "like new" with case colors is all about. The only valid reason I can think of is deception.
I've got several guns that are shiney as silver. I'm proud of them: show wear rather than an (I think American obsession) or making old guns look like they're brand new. At a very large cost, I might add.
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Gene I leave my receivers as I find them too. The engraving is much more attractive in the silver than with case color in my opinion. I am arguing with Ed about some statements he has been making about bone charcoal case hardening. i say again: i do not trust anyone professing to be an expert at the high heat bone charcoal shotgun receiver re hardening trade. i have seen to many botched jobs to have any confidence in their consistency.
sounds like you have never re hardened a shotgun receiver. well, neither have i. so, neither one of us really knows what we are talking about here, right?
Ed thanks for sharing your conclusion on bone charcoal case hardening. And since you admittedly don't know anything about it I doubt it is going to carry much weight on this board. Best, Mike
Last edited by AmarilloMike; 08/15/11 07:45 PM.
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old ed lander said that doug turnbull is a craftsmen who does excellent work and his case colors speak for them selves.ol ed says if you have pictures of defective bone hardening you should post them or send them to someone to post.you said you have been at this gun stuff for 65 years and ol ed has been at it for 65 years hmmmmmm.you said you have never case hardened any guns is this correct?then you have zero credibility on either side of the discussion.
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why do people rebuild old cars and motorcycles?,why do people restore furniture? why put new rims and tires on a car when the original ones are round and work well.the only valid reason is because original guns in like new condition are hard to find and expensive.doug mann is rebuilding a optimus you think that it has anything to do with deception.you need to rethink that statement.and if someone want to spend money on rehabing there property what business is it of yours.i have my wifes grand fathers gun im going to do my best to restore it.mc
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well great guys, go ahead and send out your guns and have them re case hardened. however, when it don't quite work out as expected, then please remember one of my words...CONSISTENCY..
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Ed I do not remember a single tbread anywhere here or on any other double gun forums about a member having a bad experience with bone charcoal case hardening. None. And, since you have been selling doubles for many years you know we are a whiney lot. We gripe about everything.
Still, not a single negative post.
We whine about slow shipping guns, bad communications, average wood to metal fit on Galazan's RBLs, heavy trigger pulls on new Ruger Gold labels, gunsmiths that don't give us fast turn around, UPS, USPS, FedEx, bad customer service. We whine about shipping costs, poor packaging, snooty receiving FFLs.
Still not a single negative post from a member that has had a bad experience with bone charcoal case hardening.
Now I know if I take my 1905 Parker VHE to Homer's Liquor Store, Body Shop, and Gunsmithing and ask him to bone charcoal case harden it he can get on the internet and find someone somewhere that will give him some directions. What I get might strongly resemble what you are describing.
But still, not one single thread about "I got my gun case hardened and it burst into little pieces and put both my eyes out and killed my goat."
Not one.
Best,
Mike
Last edited by AmarilloMike; 08/15/11 08:08 PM.
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Boys, Boys, Let's all take a deep breath here and relax a bit.
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well mike, then go ahead! have it done! enough already!
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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On this part of this board alone there have been 15,688 threads and 198,102 posts. I haven't seen anything about a member having a bad experience with bone charcoal case hardening.
And I don't have my guns case hardened or case colored.
Best,
Mike
Last edited by AmarilloMike; 08/15/11 08:13 PM.
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