Rob, A 7 1/2# bag of ITX #4's just arrived this week. All promted by the post and comments of a couple weeks ago. Can't find any low pressure loads posted for ITX. Will probably use the conventional low pressure loads and assume a spike of 1500 psi. as mentioned in a posting. All our{brother and I} loads,16/12 are mild and our guns are vintage and solid that use the nontox. Please share your results. Mark also commented on doing the same. As you favored, we also like the 7/8oz. loads. I ordered a couple boxes of ITX loads from New Era. Should be here next week. Brian of New Era seemed to think it would perform nicely, but maybe not having as long range performance that seems to be common with NiceShot. We'll see. Don't exactly know how to gauge that, every shot is different. NiceShot is just a bit out of my price range. Hope the ITX meets my expectations. Keep us posted on you and your kids hunting adventures this fall. Please share if the BP book is worth while ordering.Randy