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Why do threads end up like this? I usually resort to asking the experts here. Of course that'll be countered by the "experts there". Because there is usually "more than one way to skin a cat."  Experts are equally usually unwilling to believe there is any "real way" other than the way they do it.  They tend to argue about the proper way to do it rather than, "Here are the results I get."    So, I've mad my decision it's going to be put through with the rest of the action? Why? Here is the rationale from Price street, agree or not is up to you...but I'm going with 250 years of heritage ok? :-)
 
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 PS  I asked about this constant "brittle as glass" notion and I was confronted with a rolling of the eyes looking to the heavens. This could happen with certain alloys, but not any you are likely to encounter in the gun trade.
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 Its long and tedious, but Jack Rowe's 4 hr DVD from Midway everyone can learn a lot from. He put a hammer gun back on face making a new hinge pin and reworking the hook. The old fart did a lot of things in that video I never imagined he could STILL do. Best 14.99 I've spent in a long while
 
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Some folks here should contact Jack and tell him he's doing it wrong.
 Didn't he learn anything after all those years in Birmingham?
 
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Some folks here should contact Jack and tell him he's doing it wrong.
 Didn't he learn anything after all those years in Birmingham?
 
 Hahaha.
 
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HaHaaa. Someone ought to contact Ken Eversull and tell him he's doing it wrong too, I mean all those years working for Fabbri, didn't HE learn anything?  And while your at it...contact Paul Hodgins and tell him he's doing it wrong as well, didn't he learn anything in London? Or how about Del Whitman and Reto Beuhler, maybe they're doing it wrong too?? C'mon man, get real. By the way....about a month ago, I had in my hands a Dickson RA that had been laser welded to tighten up the works and put it back on the face, the work was absolutely flawless, even with a jewelers loup in hand you could not tell the locking bolt, hook and forend iron had any work at all done to them. First class the whole way.   Thats the way it should be done, first class.  If Jack Rowe had been brought up with laser welding in his arsenal, you'd be damned sure he'd be using it.  I'm having a Lancaster body action self-opener put back on the face right now, and it has gotten the laser treatment too, locking bolt, forend iron, and barrel hook, the works. There is now 99.9% contact on all bearing surfaces, when the gun left the factory in 1894, they couldn't have dreamed of getting that level of contact at ALL surfaces.  Technology is a wonderful thing. Dustin
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Wrong? What's wrong, the replacing the hinge pin? The hardening? What? Let's be civil. I really hate this yes/no base level of communication.
 I'll say it. People can do it anyway they like. I'm sharing my knowledge. I definately want to hear if people do it differently. That's why I asked my contacts. Let's not say wrong or right let's just say some do it my way some yours...period.
 
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If you ask for opinions ,you will get them in droves . Problem is they are opinions from a lot of people who have opinions ,but not actual knowledge. Sites like this are full of well meaning people ,I mean them no disrespect but some of the advice is based on what others have said or what they "believe" . This is not the same as practical /actual knowledge. You must also bare in mind the differing practices of the trades in different countries..OK do you leave the pin in or out? Depends on the gun ,whether you want to do a good job or a quick cheap do up.In this case  I would make a new pin to be fitted after re-colouring  slightly over size so to allow for any movement and to ensure the action is tight when finished. Leave the old pin in for hardening then throw it away. |  |  |  
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Gunman. Of course you are right. |  |  |  
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Gunman. Of course you are right. Huh? If you haven't noticed.....we are ALL right, all the time    All you have to do is ask and you'll receive 100+ "right" answers, happens here everyday. Dustin |  |  |  
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If you ask for opinions ,you will get them in droves . Problem is they are opinions from a lot of people who have opinions ,but not actual knowledge. Sites like this are full of well meaning people ,I mean them no disrespect but some of the advice is based on what others have said or what they "believe" . This is not the same as practical /actual knowledge. Yup, lots' of talkers/readers and not so many do'ers................trying to share information here is like being a seal and trying to swim off the Gallapogos Islands or any other shark infested place................ Best, 
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