Like I said ,thin skinned. Chief, last year I was given a 12 bore Weatherby SA , something or other, made in Turkey I think. I shot a few roosters with it the first couple days I had it, duly reported to this group, and shot some geese later on in the year. I have shot it a total of 19 times. Its OK, I guess...Prior to that I had a Benelli Super Black Eagle, one of the very first ones. Our Pastor talked me out of it. As guns go it was one of the best shooting most reliable ugliest things going. I shot, the first year I owned it, 22 CASES of shells through it, with nary a malfunction. Clays and trap. Great gun! I kick myself for selling it, but after all, as Pastor Isernhagen kept reminding me, he IS a man of God.