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I have been reading the threads on Grouse guns, quail guns and shooting damascus. I thought I'd start another story line that combines all three.

I usually hunt quail over dogs with my 1894, 5 1/4 lb Thomas Turner lightweight 12 BLNE, 28" damascus barrels choked 1/4, 3/4. The original design of the gun was as a light weight 12 for grouse hunting.

My wife Patti and I joined Toby Barclay (Heritage Guns) and his wife, Chrissy, for 2 weeks of stalking, touring and grouse hunting in Scotland.

Our hunt was on the moors of Ben Rennis overlooking the Glenfarclas Distillery. The grouse hunting exceded our expectations. Grouse are wild birds on the moor. Our guide and dog handler, Roy, did his best to manage our expectations low since it was early in the season and they were not too sure of the bird counts.

When we got started I first took my Turner lightweight out of the case and assembled it. Roy looked at it hard then stated that it was not the kind of gun used for grouse. He expected a modern over/under or SxS, not my old thing. I had to explain the gun and it's unique design.

Roy then questioned my shell count. "A dozen or so", I said. The hunt fee allowed 3 grouse (then overage). Toby used a pretty Blanch 12 SLE and had also pocketed a dozen shells.

Roy told us most folks take 2 boxes of shells (before lunch!!) We each had a single box of 1 oz 6. We took them all.

The wives came along to watch Roy's field trail champion German wire hair pointers work.

I am the yank in blue jeans.


The first point I got my first grouse with a single shot from the right barrel.

And got "bloodied".

The second point I got a right-left double.


Roy and his dogs take a mid-morning break.


After the break, there were 2 more flushes before lunch and I got 2 more birds with 2 more shots.

When we stopped for lunch, I was 5 grouse with 5 shots. Roy said he had never had a client shoot 100% before. Toby had yet to take a bird. He had never hunted rough over dogs and was still getting a feel for the point-flush-shoot of the game. But Toby was undaunted, the weather was great, the dogs were great, and birds were being shot.

The first point after lunch, we sent Toby up to the dog for the flush. The covey was about 10 birds and they all broke my way. I waited for Toby to fire and finally decided to try the trailing grouse in the group. I fired and knocked two birds down. 7 birds, 6 shots. One of them ran and flushed, disappearing over the moor. I think the bird I hit collided with the 2nd bird knocking it down too. I picked up my 7th on the next flush (2 shots).

The last covey of the afternoon, Toby got his first grouse with a single well placed shot. By then the weather which had been stunning all day began to close in and rain. We decided that 4 brace of grouse was more than enough for our first outing and packed it in.

Turner stock close-up


Roy decided that my odd Turner was worth owning and offered to buy it on the spot. Roy said that was the kind of 50th present he was thinking of for himself. I declined to sell my gun, but Toby offered to help Roy locate one.

There is a "keeping the boss happy" part of this story. My wife Patti was offered "spending parity" at the AGA store in Edinburgh to accessorize her AGA cooker. As the grouse were falling (and bill rising), she cheered me on with "Every bird is a new pot for me!!" I bought a lot of pots.

Joe


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Joe,
Good shooting and excellent post.


Good Shooting
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I would love to hunt grouse in Scotland EXACTLY the same way you just did. Great pics, cool gun, I'm green with envy.

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Very well done lads.

Reminds me of the group of Americans headed by Cyril Adams and Robert Braden who came over in the early 1980's and shot 1009 driven grouse in 3-days time at Eggleston Moor in County Durham. Unheard of good shooting and not thought possible of Americans by our British elite. Reckoned to be one of the six remarkable scores of the century by G.L. Carlisle in his book "Grouse and Gun".

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Firstly well done Joe. That brings back a few memories as I have been after Roe deer in the same area. It was lower down nearer the tree line and I remember waiting for a pack of Black Grouse to move off that were feeding before I could get forward for the deer. Did you see any of the black grouse?

I will be on the Derbyshire grouse moors tomorrow but just working the dogs. I am off to Scotland at the end of the month for deer but will get up on the tops with the dogs at some point for a few grouse. I will be with friends for the deer stalking but neither are fit enough in wind and limb to get up onto the high tops so will be hunting alone. Great sport. Lagopus.....

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How much would it cost to shoot 1009 grouse today?

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Lagopus, We saw about a half a dozen Black Grouse. Beautiful birds. They were off limits for shooting.

Eightbore at 95 gbp/brace, $1.61/gbp and 1009 birds, Excel says $77,000, not including tips, estate fees, and guides. Ouch.

I did find the Glenfarclas Scotch, from the distillery we shot above, is available here in Charlotte. Patti and I enjoyed a taste of the memory just last night during Monday Night Football.

Joe

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Wow - that's awesome. I would love to check it out someday.

And where's your blaze - no vest, no hat?

Are those Brits crazy?!

Thanks for sharing.

OWD

BTW: neat gun, too. Here's are pics of a Turner lightweight hammergun at Pantile's Vintage Guns:

http://www.pantilesguns.co.uk/popups/hammerguns/turner.htm


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Dont mean to be pedantic here ,but in Britian we shoot grouse. Hunting is done on horse back .

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Super post just marvellous!

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