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Rest easy Joe- so does (did) market hunter, and I never saw him miss a tower pigeon- a few years back at Chuckie's. He has shed some lbs.- good thing, but his temper and disposition are a bit "on edge" not a good thing for a "money shooter"- whether with dice or a shotgun.

Destry- this ain't the PGCA- where a different code previals- this Forum is more like Doonesbury, and I never said you, or HoJo are my friends-I don't believe in fairy tales. And if you don't like my replies here, you can always use you edit out button.. Tally Ho!!

Hey EightBaller- out here Crows AIN'T game birds- and cripples walking around on the field often bring in other birds- decoys. I take out the plug in my POS evil black Mossenburgher 835 and put in a imp. cyl. choke- we used decoys and dead birds, and my Johnny Stewart electronic caller-I learned about No. 9 from the CrowMesiter- the late Bert Popowski- who used a 20 pump and No. 9 skeet loads- Now those for CQC crows- ttwisting, diving, really pissed off-

Tell you what- Mr. EightBalls-- after watching the hefty Limey Master Clays man decimate crows from his set up (no camo no cover except his circular blind-- I'll gladly play that game-- 100 shells (I'll use AA 12 7.5 shot Handicap Trap loads- my LC Smith 12 2E with the VR 32" Nitro steel barrels choked F&F -- and you shoot your 100 shells in any load, gauge and gun of your choosing)-- most birds "grassed outta the 100 wins the pot--crows and feral pigeons. Unlike you, howsome-ever, I'll be shooting from my right shoulder-- Table stakes-- howszat grabbya?? Ho Jo will be my "second" and observer/dead bird tallyman-- you can have the "Nearsighted Mr. Magoo" or whomever you wish-- we'll do it at "The Kraut's Klub" next year-- Hausmann's Ja!!!

Well, no 'zactly there Joe-- I read and studied Bert Popowski's "Bible" on killing crows--If No. 9's worked for him, that's good enug for me (and Bobby McGee).. Nice eye though!!

You live in a "dream world then" Mr. Treblig-- nothing- not women, horses, money- good liquor and cigars- arouses passions in men like our love of guns and gunning- and as we get longer in the tooth- we get set in our ways and a tad "peckish" when some 4-eyed "expert", a member of the Eastern Seaboard Mafiaoso, comments on things he doesn't know Jack Schmidt about- experts up da giggi here-

Crows are not solitary, ever heard of a crow roost? Ever hear of a "murder" of crows? There have been roosts in the US with up to 1M birds in them. In the 1930's and WWII they blew up the roosts in the midwest with dynamite to prevent crop destruction. One blast killed over 300,000 crows alone.

Mr. Digweed called them crows, he shot them a long way out so I didn't see the subtle detail. However the video is remarkable for his long range shooting skill on "corvids".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll2oYeKGcxs&NR=1

Bert Popowski would have killed even more crows if he shot 6's or even 7 1/2's. So would you.

Cripples walking around on the field must be dispatched immediately or they are considered live decoys, being crows are classified "migratory" that is a federal offense. It is also less than ethical to let a wounded bird suffer longer than need be.

Since crows are classified as migratory they share some other rules with waterfowl depending on the state. My state and others require a repeater to be plugged for 3 shots. You want to check with your state DNR on that.

I realised that from your original comment which is why I clarified things for you. The American crow is a different species from the European version and has different habits.

Crows, rooks, ravens and magpies can all appear fairly similar to the inexperienced and ill informed. Unfortunately only three of them are lawful legitimate targets, and shooting the wrong one can incur a fine or imprisonment.

Sure. Rarely if ever seen in UK where the birds as I said tend to be solitary.
Sure. It refers to a mythological gathering on the ground which again is never seen here, or I suspect anywhere else.

Mr Digweed was shooting Rooks, a quite different species from the European crow or his American cousin.

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I never met Mr Popowski personally, nor saw him shoot crows. I do recall reading some of his articles, probably in the 1950s. He was shooting in the mid-west, don't recall the state for certain now. As i recall his writings he began on the premise that the crow was a large bird & needed large shot. Some birds either escaped or required extra shots which he felt should have been killed with the first shot. This led him to experiment & he even plucked some crows & realized the were not near as large minus the fluffy feathers as they appeared. He then progressed to smaller shot.
Now I have only his word for this "BUT" He hoimseld stated that his kill ratio went "UP" when he switched from large shot to smaller shot. Who am I to say he was wrong???
#9 shot will kill a lot more effectively than many give it credit for, I personally don't like using it on any "Game" which I intend to eat. I have eaten a good bit of "Crow" in my life but not intentionally & it wasn't the type which wears black feathers.

I have been crow shooting for near 40 years, I have shot thousands. I have tried about everything there is on them. If you enjoy watching puffs of feathers come off them and they still fly away, if you enjoy watching them scream and fight all the way down, if you enjoy chasing after hoppers, if you enjoy hitting birds but you thought you missed stick with 'ur 9's. If you like plumes of feathers and a majority of dead folds in the air shoot #6. 6 shot will drop at close range as good as anything and it stones 'em at long range where 8 and 9's are useless.

nhcrowshooter;
I am not a crow shooter in the sense either you are or Mr Popowski was. If I were to go out with intentions of shooting crows I most likely would pick #7�s.
I have only your word & Bert's word, both of which claim great success using different shot sizes. He claimed quick kills & made no mention of "Chasing Hoppers". I Really & Truly have no great reason to believe either one of you any more than the other.