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From Walt's book: "In about 1914, the automatic-manual safety feature was changed to automatic only."
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Mike - Is that a 'LLH' on the right barrel just forward of the flats? Drew, No, it is just some dings/marks in the barrel. I REALLY tried to make it look like an LLH, as that would spark some discussion, but alas, I was unable to make those letters appear. 
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From Walt's book: "In about 1914, the automatic-manual safety feature was changed to automatic only." Thanks Larry. I have owned three Flues over the years. The two with a Krupp barrels and one with Etoile damascus and all three have had the automatic-manual safety. I need to check the s/n's, but I am pretty sure at least one of them was post '14.
Mike
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Mike, I've also owned several. None of mine had that feature, but like you I'd have to check SN's. However, as best I can remember, all mine were later guns.
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I have only had a couple of Flues over the years & both had the auto only safeties. Both were from around the 1924 period, one a 20ga the other a 12ga. Both were field grades with steel bbls. I hunted the 20 quite a bit back in the 1960s. At the time I was not aware of their notoriety of frame cracking & it was smokeless powder proofed so fed it a regular diet of the 2˝DE-1Oz load almost exclusively, both factory & reloads. I never fed it any of the 2 3/4DE-1Oz "Express" loads though, probably fortunate.
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By the mid-1920s, Ithaca had beefed up their Flues doubles quite a bit. In the 1912 through at least 1915 Ithaca catalogues they give their smallbore weights as --
16-ga 5 3/4 to 6 1/4
20-ga 5 1/4 to 5 3/4
28-ga 4 3/4 to 5 1/4
In the July 1919, Ithaca catalogue --
16-ga 5 lbs. 14 ozs. to 6 1/2
20-ga 5 1/2 to 6
28-ga 5 to 5 1/2
In the December 1, 1919, Ithaca catalogue --
16-ga 6 to 6 3/4
20-ga 5 3/4 to 6
28-ga 5 1/4 to 5 3/4
In the 1925 Ithaca catalogue --
16-ga 6 1/4 to 6 3/4
20-ga 6 to 6 1/2
28-ga 5 3/4 to 6 1/4
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Dave, that's some 28....is it redone?
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Mike - Is that a 'LLH' on the right barrel just forward of the flats? Drew, No, it is just some dings/marks in the barrel. I REALLY tried to make it look like an LLH, as that would spark some discussion, but alas, I was unable to make those letters appear. Drew, I didn't realize I had this pic. It shows the marks better. 
Mike
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Mike, I've also owned several. None of mine had that feature, but like you I'd have to check SN's. However, as best I can remember, all mine were later guns. Larry, I checked the two I have here. Both are 1912-1913 guns. One is pictured in this thread and the other is the Etoile damascus (6 lb 7 oz) 12ga. The third one was left in Utah with my eldest son, so I would have to have him check the s/n.
Mike
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My 28-gauge Flues was mostly patina when I got it.  I'm not a Flues guy, and primarily stick to NIDs for my Ithacas. But, how many 30-inch barrel 28-gauges come ones way? So, it got a full Doug Turnbull treatment. 
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