More turkeys have been killed with the old M-97 and ounce and a quarter than all the other guns combined. Of course that was because the 97 was around way before the others. Any man who thinks he is a sportsman taking a shot beyond 35/40 yards is feeding the foxes. Experience? Hell yes! I am 75 and now too sick to do any hunting. The ammo makers have contributed to this magnum nonsense. Remember the old Remington boxes with a greenhead in flight (boxed .410) saying Extra Long Range? The English had it figured out a hundred years ago. They were killing high driven pheasants with 1%1/16 oz. 12 bores. And as for geese, I shot one lagging bird with 7/8 oz. of #8 shot with my Model 17 Remmy. Came down, head and neck shot, like a bag of chicken livers. My TCW in retaliation. Chops
