12 bore Model 21 Winchester is a pretty darn nice gun and in this depressed economy can be bought right. They are built very strong and no problem shooting real heavy loads in them. Also, I saw a guy win over $100,000.00 a few years ago shooting live birds with one. He absolutely loved his. They are a little heavy in 12b but really great guns overall IMHO. Plus, they are made in the USA and you could be proud to take a gun like that anywhere.

Socialism is almost the worst.