I have very few rules for guests quail hunting with me on our ranch. One is only two cartridges in a gun and the other is no #9 shot. I've just seen way too many birds shot with it that are lost. Not many of us are capable of consistently centering a bird in the pattern and accurately judging range. My favorite is 1 ounce of #7 hard and I appreciate the way it will drive into vitals from any angle. On skeet and 16 yard trap I use #8 and don't feel a disadvantage on either.

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