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I would like to know if you guys was going to buy a donor double from this company what price range would you look for? Also and would deal with the German made guns? I need some help on this matter.
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Errr... I have to cordially and respectfully disagree with the phrase ' average level of the world market'. Having handled a number of these guns, and owned a few myself, I'd have to say more like 'average level of quality produced by a socialist state industry'. Not bad guns, just work-a-day guns. The kind of gun one would take out on a bad weather day.
The quality of these guns range from low end (for the common folk)to high class ones for Party Bigshots. They even had classifications for the guns quality. These codes can be found on the bbl lumps of the gun and are:
Q1 (since the early 60s) and “S” (until 1960) = superior quality over the average level of the world market
1 = good quality on the average level of the world market
2 = sufficient quality; adequate but below world market level
Hi Kyrie, the above comments about quality are taken from a German source: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCtezeichen_%28DDR%29 Just a FYI. All the best! Greg
Gregory J. Westberg
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Here's an example of a Q1 gun, a 12ga SLE marked Buhag, I use this one for late season Pheasants: All the best! Greg    
Gregory J. Westberg
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Greg, this is extra nice engraving - a Socialist Special!
With kind regards,
Jani
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Gut kenne ich weing uber Deutsche Schrotflinten, aber morgens nicht ein Experte. Ich glaube, was Sie herren bekannt gegeben haben, um korrekt zu sein. Und da ich auch auf Sprache von Don Quixote auBerdem. Deutchscher und Spanien haben engen beziehungen fur Jahre gehabt und begonnen 1936 mit dem nazis Unterstutzung von Franco und obleight nicht Spanien aber Mexiko, die legendare Zimmerman Anmerkung von 1916- Prosit!!
Last edited by Run With The Fox; 11/27/11 11:57 AM.
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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So the Merkels with the scalloped receivers aren't actually Merkels? I've seen the Ernst Thalman guns listed separately as such but didn't realize the Merkels weren't really Merkels.
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Gut kenne ich weing uber Deutsche Schrotflinten, aber morgens nicht ein Experte. Ich glaube, was Sie herren bekannt gegeben haben, um korrekt zu sein. Und da ich auch auf Sprache von Don Quixote auBerdem. Deutchscher und Spanien haben engen beziehungen fur Jahre gehabt und begonnen 1936 mit dem nazis Unterstutzung von Franco und obleight nicht Spanien aber Mexiko, die legendare Zimmerman Anmerkung von 1916- Prosit!!
Ola-- uno de muchas razones por las que Sr. famoso Terry Wieland del escritor de la escopeta escribe tan con conocimentio sobre las escopetas espanolas finas, el es fluido en Espanol. Y viejo refran si usted habla a un hombre de otro pais a traves de un intrepreter, usted hable a su cabela y zaonamiento!! Pero si usted lo felicita aprendiendo su lengua materna, usted habla a su corazon!! Was sind Ihre damit sagen?
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Here's an example of a Q1 gun, a 12ga SLE marked Buhag, I use this one for late season Pheasants:
I too have a Q1 gun. It's a dead ringer for this gun: http://757arms.weebly.com/775simson.html The ejectors don't even work as extractors, and the left hammer will cock about half the time. I use it for a door stop. Bottom line: East German quality ratings aren't useful. Buy the gun, not name or 'quality rating'.
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I don't see the "Q1" marking on either the Buhag or the one Kyrie linked to: http://757arms.weebly.com/775simson.html
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Its on the left side of the rear lump.
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