Originally Posted By: tw
You gents are causing some serious grins this cold & rainy morning. One almost has to ask about a 'turkey' designation connoting more, but I shall refrain;-) Hahaha

Little doubt there is something quite positive to be said for 'late bloomers' (yes, indeed, as bloom distance determines max effective range), but I would think it more a function of the ammunition itself than any specific 'magic' choke configuration/designation; e.g., 3.5" 12ga. 1.5oz. BBB 'Black Cloud' ammo (To date, choke constrictiion has been the determinate of pattern bloom vs time/distance at statisticallly valid levels. Pellet retained energy and target must be matched for maximum range for a given combination of MV, pellet size, and target. Pellet count determines how large a diameter can remain effective. Ammo has not been found to influence pattern ploom rate.) Wads look like miniature rocket ships w/no petals and small cuts that become 'air brakes' after firing in the bottom portion of the shotcup. I've not used it personally nor patterned it in anything either, but have seen some large waterfowl taken w/it to good effect [DRT] at what I would judge to have been 45yards or perhaps a bit farther. The spent wads I picked up did not show signs of any plastic scoring, they did not appear to have scruffed at all on their outer periphery. I was impressed. Has anyone patterened this ammo per Dr. Jones's method?
This is of course both empirical and anecdotal. One would have to do some tests at progressively greater distances to show there was, in fact, a 'later bloom' taking place when compared with more conventional ammunition. Yes, solid thinking!!

I always thot the little webbed bags of shot loaded back before the turn of the previous century showed a clear understanding of the benefits of the concept, even if thay didn't have the correct material(s) at hand to achieve it. I don't think so. To my knowledge, nobody has ever proven this concept.


Good points to discuss. Keep thinking!!

DDA