It would be hard to convince me that some of the higher grade Fox or Charles Daly boxlocks should not be considered "best" guns or on a par with "best" guns. Fieldsport currently has two sub-gauge boxlocks that are really pretty, one is a grip safety gun with 6 gold animal inlays, 20 ga by Sauer as I recall, and the other is a Daly 16, nicely engraved. I feel that if there is something better than those, I probably shouldn't know about it, due to the danger to my kid's prospective inheiritance.