Waid. I don't know those guns you are looking at, but I would pass. I have two LC Smiths that I don't have $1000.00 in. They are both shooters and the one is 85 to 90%. All that was wrong was the foreend. I'm making a new foreend now. It's a 1929 Field grade with case color and good blueing on the barrells. I paid $450.00. The other one is a 1906 model O. Damascus barrells. I shoot Federal shells from Midway. 5000 psi. Good grouse guns. They're heavy guns, but at my age"68" I can handle them untill I get to old. Just look around and be carefull. You can get a good buy.