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Its definitely Italian. My first thought was a Beretta SO3 as Yeti mentions. The engraving is very similar to this one done by Giuseppe Bregoli in 1960: Has chromed Böhler Steel barrels. Sons of M. Fabbrizioli (if well spelled) or M. Fabbrizioli & Sons from Rimini. Could not find the name either. Very nice gun. JC(AL)
Last edited by JayCee; 02/17/07 09:24 PM.
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Looks like a real sidelock to me, the Bohler steel barrels are a sign of a better gun. It is not a big name so the price will be held down. Now if it said Fabbri??????????? bill
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BTW, several "best" guns I saw in "The Italian Gun" (by Steve Smith and Laurie Morrow) have the same type of cocking indicators. They were all sidelocks by Bertuzzi, Cassartelli and Rizzini.
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Ahh, now with an SO3 in comparison I see it's the rounded sculpted boss(?) that's different in design, not the hinge pin. Very cool.
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Look at that gun from the top, guys. I agree that the engraving is not Germanic, but the bolting sure as heck is. That's Kersten. Did any of the Beretta SO series use Kersten bolting? I can't recall, but the one photo I have of an SO does not show extensions on either side of the top barrel.
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It would not be unheard of for a small maker to use barrels from Germany. There were a few gun makers who only produced a few guns a year.
If you could provide pictures of the proof marks and the markings on the barrels, etc, it may help a bit. This is not a cheap gun. However, an unknown maker can drive down the price. If there are trademarks on the barrel flats or receiver, it may tie the gun to a better known name.
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The only "proof marks" on barrel are shown in above picture. Also included a picture of the lockup mechanism if it would help in identification. Would really like to determine value of this shotgun in the marketplace. If this site helps in the sale of this gun I pledge a generous donation to the current drive.
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The Beretta SO3EL in the above picture also has Böhler steel barrels, Antinit in this case. This doesn't mean the barrels came from Germany, just the steel. It also has a cross bolt like all SOs but does not have top barrel extensions in the Kersten manner, like Cman's. Very sturdy looking hinge pin btw.
Cman, do you have a clearer picture of the name of the maker? I could try posting on some Italian gun forum to ask.
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Has anyone ever seen a Kersten bolting system on a gun that wasn't from Germany or that had German origins?
And I've never seen a gun with the hinge mounted on the bbls like it is on this one.
Interesting.
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You wonder why they would monoblock barrels on a nice gun like that.
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