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Sidelock
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Has anyone ever seen one of the Mauser made Newton rifles that were shipped right around the beginning of WW1? I was reading about them in the "Mauser Archive" by Jon Speed and he had not found one and I was wondering....They were in .256 caliber.
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Bruce Jennings' Newton book says only 24 were delivered from the first DWM order in 1914. He goes on to say that it is doubtful if any of second DWM order or any from the Sauer & Sohn order were delivered because of the war.
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Sure would like to know what they are like if any still exist in original form.The more I learn about the Mauser and Newton the more impressed I become.
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I believe two or three have been found. I sent a link to a gentleman and he may weigh in on the topic. Art
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A good while ago, I was gifted with a .256 Newton Mauser. As I remember ,it was a good piece of work. It was stolen, along with about 70 other guns from my ranch in Colorado...Somewhere I know I have a picture of it, taken for insurance purposes...I am out of the country for the next 5-6 months, or I'd look for it and post it...
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I came into possession of a 1922 Newton Mauser by spotting it on the internet and recognizing it for what it was. The bolt handle design and the unique set triggers were what called the rifle to my attention. I realise that this is a different rifle from the pre-WW I version, but since only about 100 of them were delivered, is interesting in its own right. The seller reported that it had belonged to his grandfather, who at some point in the 1930's had sent it to the Niedner Rifle company to be rebarrelled in caliber .270 Winchester. This was about the time .256 Newton ammunition ceased to be available commercially, so that, plus presumable effects of firing ammunition with corrosive primers, may have led to the decision to rebarrel. At any rate, it is a unique combination of rifle history, combining the names of Newton, Mauser, J. P. Sauer & Sohn (who reputedly assembled the rifles for Newton), and Niedner.
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There were two forms of Newton Mausers. The first was imported in 1914 and to date no specimens have been positively identified as from the batch of two dozen contracted for. A second group of a hundred rifles were imported in 1922, all .256 Newton, with reversed double set triggers and a butterknife bolt handle. A few had a clover leaf arranged muzzle venting system. When I was collecting Newtons, I had three of the 1922 Newton Mausers, one of them restocked by Shellhamer. Bruce Jennings had two of them. They remain the scarcest model of Newton rifle. The one pictured by xausa shows a Model 1922. Several years ago I wrote an article on that model which appeared in ARMS AND THE MAN.
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I have a Newton-actioned Newton with the reversed DST. Not much of a rifle. The triggers and the ratchet rifled barrel are the only reasons I keep it. I really like the triggers. Other than that, I have a Win.54 made the same year. The 54 is a far better rifle.
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Several years ago I wrote an article on that model which appeared in ARMS AND THE MAN. Was this the Arms and the Man which became The American Rifleman, or is there a newer version that I don't know about? Is the article available on the internet?
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Waterman - you have one of the no good Buffalo Newton rifles, guite the contrast quality wise from the Original Model or the 1922 Newton Mauser, which were both examples of first rate riflemaking. xausa - I should have said MAN AT ARMS, my thoughts are pretty much stuck in pre-1920 mode. I don't think any MAN AT ARMS articles are available on the internet, but I could mail you a xerox.
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