The more I think about it I am starting to agree LM would not be bad. You guys are likely correct it would work well for grouse. I still like the splinter better than the beavertail but that is more individual taste than anything. There is a thread though over on UJ where the consensus for grouse hovers around Cyl, IC
http://www.uplandjournal.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard312a/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=2;t=72205