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The whole City of Rio is ringed by hills which are occupied by squatters,gangsters,dope dealers etc. The "Streets" or what passes for them have no names and there are no maps of these areas. The police won't go up there unless it's absolutely necessary and then they will go as a group.
It's going to be interesting to see what happens when the Olympics are in progress. Downtown Rio is a beautiful City and everything is well maintained.
Jim

Since the gun registry came into effect, I have talked to a number of American waterfowl hunters where my cabin is near the Delta Marsh. Most reply they never had a problem getting into Canada. Many have said they have a worse time getting back into the USA. Don't know why?

Exactly what happened to me..Took a Benelli SBE into Canada, very little problem. US Customs held me up for 2 days coming back...Sat Sun, until I could get Scott Carlson to fax Paperwork....All because US customs didnt want to take the time to do the paperwork on the way in, Lazy Bastridges..

Why would you expect government people to do your paperwork?

Yup. Never forget to get a receipt for your guns from US customs BEFORE crossing into Canada. Otherwise, when you try to cross back, they will accuse you of having bought it in Canada. The last time I drove through Canada on my way to Alaska, I made sure to get that receipt and not lose it. As I pulled up to the US customs station on my entrance back into the US, they must have been busy that day because they basically just waived me through; never even asking if I had any firearms in the truck. But of course, if I didn't have that receipt in hand and ready to display, there's little liklihood I would have gotten that lucky.

The best course for proof of prior ownership when bringing a gun back into the US is the form you get from a customs office. I do not remember the form number. That said the Customs and Border site specifically says ANY form of proof is good and that the form is NOT a requirement.

The only problem I ever had was in Mineapolis once when the customs agent was a black guy with a Jamaican accent and dreadlocks. I showed him my Canadian registration and he said he wouldn't accept a document issued by a Foriegn government. I told him I had a plane to catch and went on through without incident. I suspect he had a problem with my Southern accent.

The nearest customs office to me is the port city of Brunswick, GA over on the coast so I never have gotten around to picking up the customs form on any of my guns. I always take a copy of the bill of sale now though...Geo

Customs form 4457 can be used to show that a firearm being taken back into the US was previously owned in the US and not purchased abroad. It is the same form similarly used for expensive watches, cameras, etc. Once obtained, a form can be used for as many trips as you like. It can also be obtained before travel by visiting a Customs office with the item or items to be listed. I think that the items may have to have a serial number so that they can be easily identified upon reentry to the US.

Google Customs Form 4457 for more information.

What happens at the border if you don't have a receipt or you never had a receipt for the shotgun?

I bought it out of someone's trunk out in a parking lot of a bar.

I've brought shotguns to Manitoba Canada almost every year since 1968. Never any problems with the form RCMP 5589 adopted many years ago. Just have the original and two unsigned copies of the form ready and have the guns ready to pull out so officer can check serial numbers against what you show on your forms. You actually can get by with an original and one copy as they scan the form after you sign it. At my entry station, they still ask about rabies papers for the dogs, but quit asking about booze and ammunition several years ago.

In all these years I have never had U.S. Customs even ask about guns. You don't need to even stop there when crossing the border into Canada. They do ask about what you are bringing back from Canada, but seem concerned only about purchases. Last year they didn't even want a list of gamebirds taken or the license they were taken under.