Judge: I pretty much agree with you, but if you review the thread 'Proof House in USA' from about a month ago, you may see this idea of proof is very, very controversial, at least in the United States. I agree with you, most folks of this forum want to see proof marks on their European guns, and likewise want their European guns 'in proof', but when it comes to guns manufactured in the USA, most have an obtuse view of proof which I believe stems from a fear of government interference and control, whether real or imagined.