John, what were the Models of the hammer guns you have seen built by H&R prior to their A&D guns built ca. 1880-84 ? I have seen a dozen or so "early " hammer guns and they were nowhere near the quality of the A&D guns, which , with the 1883 Colt, were among the finest quality guns built in America. Later H&R hammer guns were of similar , rather poor, quality like the ones made very early before their A&D guns.

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