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The Manufrance Robusts have a latch that works like that. I don't know if it is the same action and patent.
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Mike
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Quite often used on double rifles as it is very positive and secure
Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought stupid,than open it and confirm.
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Mike and Larry , doesn't the Manufrance latch, found on the Robust, Robust Ideal,and the Ideal , also move the forend forward as the latch is being turned ?
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Although I don't have the patent on hand(maybe in DGJ Vol. 9 Issue 4?), I've attributed it to Charles Harvey for his forend fastener British patent 1793 of 1866. I believe he was working at Wilkinson Sword or Rigby at the time. The Vienna contingent of Austrian gunmakers were quite fond of it.
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CJO,The generic trade name for this type of forend fastener is,"Grip fore-end."
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Mike and Larry , doesn't the Manufrance latch, found on the Robust, Robust Ideal,and the Ideal , also move the forend forward as the latch is being turned ? Yes it does. I guess it anchors on the loop and as the lever is turned it pushes the forend back into the action. The Rigby doesn't? Best, Mike
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I have one on a Nowoty (that's right, spelled with no "n")O/U combo in 16/8x57JR. Have just posted pictures under "help with proofmarks" in the German and Austrian section. Seems to have been proofed in Wiepert. Steve
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In my Bonehill Catalogue 1888, there are 5 fore-end fasteners listed that can be had on his shotguns, Deeley & Edge, Anson, The Bonehill Patent, the Key and the Grip Fore-end, I'm sure there are other variants. I have a Bonehill Patent, its basically a minature Jones underlever, the lever snaps down into the latch and must be first lifted and then turned. The one CJO is asking about is called the "Grip Fore-End" fastener. FWIW --- John Can,
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Thanks to everyone for the imput....thank you Roy and John! Grip Fore-End it is!, argument settled and nobody won.
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