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Thanks, Dave. I noticed that the number on the top of the box of Records, P374L, is very similar to the one on the box I pictured, which is P374. What does that mean?

I will give the Records I have a closer look.

SRH

The shells contained in the pictured box are actually 3" Records. As I said before, they were a gift to me from a board member many years ago, a Mr. Olson. It looks as if the shells and the box are mismatched, unless the type box pictured could have contained Record shells. They are star crimped.

Were the 1929 loadings roll or star crimped?

SRH

Western didn't star crimp the Super-X loads until right about 1948. As I said, your box has RECORD between the upper arms of the X on the face of the box, but I don't see that it mentions Super Seal Crimp on your box?!? My pre-WW-II box is roll-crimped with 4L on the top wad. P37 is the Load No. for a 12-gauge Super-X 1 3/8 ounce load in a 3-inch RECORD shell with 4 being the shot size and L for Lubaloy. Pre WW-II they used a C for chilled shot, S for single ball, and B for buckshot loads as well. After the War they no longer used the C, but still used the B and the L.

For RWTF, when Winchester introduced their Model 12 Heavy Duck for the 12-gauge 3-inch shell in 1935, Winchester/Western introduced the Super-Speed/Shper-X 12-gauge 3-inch Magnum shell with 1 5/8 ounces of shot to go with the new gun. That is about 34 more #4s in the load.