Bob:
Also it would date prior to the the official merger of Buda & Pest, and some other area, in 1873 although there was some unification in 1867. I would assume that József Kirner's address changed at that time and it would pair nicely with the pinfire & centralfire system you not. Am curious though if the back of the locks are stepped. I've asked fuhrmann to translate some text and it appears the Anton Mulacz of Wien was a whale of a lock maker and may be the source as he palled around with the likes of
Leopold Gasser, Johann Kaletzky, Stefan Mann, Wenzel Maschek, and Johann Springer. I assume that all may have offered the stepped lock variant but if we add Kirner, Lebeda & Nowak I think we may have about rounded out the list.
The title or appointment you note on the rib is:
Császári Es Királyi Udvari Puskamüves(gunsmith)-(császári és királyi)
Fegyvergyaros(armourer)
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=276543&Searchpage=1&Main=17173&Words=+k%F6niglich&Search=true#Post276543
And may look like:
Kirner remekmuve(masterpiece)
For now we may have overlooked Karoly Kiszela or Kiszela Karoly .
Kind Regards,
Raimey
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