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For many years I have looked at what I believe is a picture of the same rifle in two different books. In both books they do not say who the maker was.





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In an auction last month there was a rifle that looked like it was made by the same maker. The rifle was listed without a makers name.



I did a little side by side comparison not the same rifle but could be the same maker.



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When I look at those three photos like that, I DO think they are the same rifle. I say that based on the grain streaks running out of the checkering on the forearm. They are too similar to be different pieces of wood. The poor resolution and lighting of the middle photo is a problem but I think they are all the same. The bottom and top are more easily put together.


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The first difference that struck my eye was the different shaping of the area where the bottom rear of the PG blends into the belly; sharp vee in one case, rounded in the other or at least that's the way it appears. Otherwise same-same.
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When I unpacked the rifle yesterday it was much nicer that the pictures showed. The rifle has seen little use, the Noske scope has cross wires with a dot, in the trapdoor butt is a like new Lyman 48 slide.

The action is Rock-Island the barrel looks like a NRA sporter barrel lighted a bit, there is still the star gauge mark at the muzzle. The bore is perfect. The back half of the buttstock is very dry and you can watch the oil soak in.


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I saw that too Joe, but I think it is a combination of light and angle that makes it look different.

The statement "... hundreds of self-taught amateurs that can do equally well at gunsmithing" statement caught my eye. Things must have really changed.


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When I normally take a bolt rifle apart I put the barrel in a padded vise upside down and remove the two action screws. When I did this one, as I remove the last screw by hand I hold the barrel and stock together in my other hand.

I then took a hold of the bottom metal and just lifted out as if it were sitting on the bench. The stock also just lifted off without any pressure points.

I turned over the stock and saw some really...really nice inletting, just a super job.


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How many think it could be the same rifle? I can take more and different pictures if that would help.

I get a lot of exercise jumping to conclusions so let me know what you think.


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