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Move mount and shoot is just pass through. Gun is always inserted on the target track BEHIND the bird. For sustained lead on skeet targets which take a predictable track, the insertion point is on the other end of the bird. I am unable to shoot even skeet mounted (the exceptions being high 1 sometimes and 8 high and low all the time. Everywhere else, I need to move the muzzle and mount the gun. May have something to do with my lousy eyesight or worse reflexes?

jack

I don't think it's just pass through...

I think you're allowed to think that.

I have found, that anytime I think about technique in shooting birds, I cant hit anything. Its instinctive. If you take the time to determine how you are going to shoot a wild thing, you arent going to shoot it. With clay targets which are predictable after launch its a different thing..

You guys are hilarious.

Where's the 'pull away' and 'collapsing lead' discussion?

Pull away means sticking the gun right at the target, moving with it, and then pulling out front while pulling the trigger.

Collapsing lead means swinging through a spot in front of the target. It actually works sometimes... and some targets virtually demand it, like a battue.

What is the most important thing about all this? Whatever technique you use, finish the shot. Follow through with head down. The muzzle should finish up in front of where the target breaks or folds.

It does become instinctive... and you don't have to think... much... but it takes a hell of a lot of targets to get to that point.

I knew that! (But when)

jack

All forward allowance methods mentioned are "tools" for the shooting flying shooter (dontcha just love descriptive English!!). IMO, like all endeavers which involve tools, when one doesn't work/goes sour, break out another; if the screwdriver isn't getting it done, get a hammer (joking). Some days/targets/guns/weather conditions/moon phases/ etc. they work and some days they don't work. If I really knew why they work and don't work I'd be shooting high stakes live birds!!!

DDA

"Move mount and shoot" is not pass through. John Bidwell describes it as a type of sustained lead.
He instructs you to have a gun hold position half way between where you first clearly see the target, and where you intend to break it. When you see the target, you move the gun in front of the target as you mount the gun, and when the gun hits your shoulder pull the trigger.
Pete

There is a swing through / pull away also. Instead of putting the gun right on the target stick the gun in about two feet behind and move with it. Then swing through and when the correct lead is seen pull the trigger.


Best,

Mike

BUT! What is the correct lead? If someone wants to put me in a slump when I am having a good day, all they have to do is ask "How much are you leading those birds?"