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A shotgun that shoots 12 inches low would be a piece of junk for me. Either remedy it or get rid of it. To change POI that much you will probably have to bend the barrels. To really tell you need to shoot a 5 shot group at a pattern plate. A single shot tells one nothing.
Last edited by buzz; 07/01/12 08:56 AM.
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Are you certain that the barrels shoot low, or does the gun shoot low? This is two different things. If the gun shoots low stock change can correct by raising the comb. Decrease in pitch would help some but not 12 inches. Are you patterning with a bench support? (I doubt if you used two shooters). Bob
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You guys are nuts to even consider bending the barrels. For under $250 any competent stock bender can bend the stock up to correct the low shooting. Before you send it to a bender, use a consistent aim and shoot at a single point for many shots until a definite hole develops where the pattern centers. You can then determine how much the stock needs to be bent. If you shoot at 20 yards the pattern will develop quicker and will be more visible. Then use the ratios of the shooting distance (720 inches for 20 yards) and the adjustment needed, say 6 inches, to the disance from the front sight to your eye, about 36 inches for me, and solve for the adjustment of the stock at the point directly below your eye. For a gun that shoots 6 inches low at 20 yards, the correction would require you to raise the stock (6X36)/720 = .3 inches directly below your eye. That's probably easily achievable with an RBL. Remember that the adjustment is made at the point below the eye rather than the heel of the stock.
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Hi;
You may be wise to contact Mile Orlen about bending the stock if it needs to be bent.
He charged me $100.00 to bend a stock on a SxS.
Good luck,
Franchi
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Just my 2 cents, but a gun shooting 12-18" low at 25 yrds isn't going to be corrected by a shorter bead or a pitch change.
Bending barrels is a subtle thing with a big POI change. Examine them closely to see if they are straight (in the horizontal plane) or if they curve down slightly.
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Most all the SxS's I've shot looking flat down the rib will shoot low.
People unfamiliar with shooting SxS's bear down too much on the gun and their sight picture is looking too flat down the rib and they shoot low.
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We used 3 shooters with mutiple (at least 3 shots each. We weren't using a bench but were each using a rifle style hold, not mounting and shooting. All shots were with the same Winchester factory loads (that I always use) of the same lot. We all shot low. Since I am 6'5" and have a 37" sleeve so I tried it with and without a slip on pad. Result was the same as I would expect.
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Also not that this was all undertaken to understand why I was missing long shots very consistently. Those shots were taken low gun, mount and fire.
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Well, since it seems that you, like another gentleman mentioned, have a "LUNCH" Edition, I will take the aggravator off your hands for, oh I don't know, maybe 500 bucks.
Seriously, I would ask the manufacturer to make it right.
bc
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Yes, it's at least well worth asking if CSMC will help you out before doing anything else.
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