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Chuck - you are correct. I am just thinking the info provided suggests that we are not sure just how far off the gun really is. Off by 2" can be fixed by bending the stock; off by 12" inches and it is back to CSMC. I am just suggesting doing some careful measuring before doing the equivalent of wacking the barrels against a bag of 7-1/2 shot.

The OP could send the gun back to CSMC and let them determine the extent of the problem, but I would want to know that info for myself rather than rely on the manufacturer who may possibly be motivated to err on the side of "it is within spec" to avoid having to do unpaid warranty work. Not that CSMC would ever cut corners.

FWIW

It will be interesting to hear the report on the moleskin or raising the comb of the buttstock.

Randall any idea on when you will do the test?

Mike

Same here Chuck. I had a sporting clay gun that I knocked the bead off of, everyone except me noticed it was gone

Gents, I won't get to try the stock adjustment and a longer string of shots to set POI until this weekend at the earliest. I will give it a fair shake and report on the result. At that point I will be down to deciding what to do.

Thanks for all the thoughtful advice.

What's unclear to me in combing this thread is whether the shooter is looking down the rib when the gun is fired. If the shooter has a "flat" picture in relation to the barrels, then the barrels should impact centered on point of aim. With this sort of "aim" of the barrels, if they then hit significantly off, the barrels themselves are at fault.

So, is it gun fit or barrel malfunction? If the latter, send the gun back to CSMC rather than bending in the full of the moon, etc.

No one is looking for a simple solution...

This is a good suggestion, very overlooked. I was shooting low on crossers with my Rizzini clays gun when an adept instructor ( Anthony Matarese) adjusted my pitch using a folded up piece of shell box wedged in between my butt pad and stock.....problem solved. After the lesson had my smith make the change permanent and I moved on happy.

Well, here we are 2 months later. My gunsmith looked at the possibilities and after he tested the gun the result was the same, POI 9" low and 3" left. Because his firm is old and respected he decided to let CSMC have a go at fixing their defective product. He returned it and CSMC put new barrels with new screw in chokes, "regulated POI" and returned it as "repaired". Upon test here POI was still 9" low and 3" left, and the barrels were really new, believe me. So to make this insane saga end the smith applied a little pressure to the barrels (bent them!) and POI is where it should be. So much for my RBL adventures. No more CSMC products at my house, ever.

Randall: Glad you got the gun's POI regulated. I have never owned an RBL, but I have handled one, and I have to admit, they feel pretty darn good for a relatively low priced SxS box lock shotgun. I really wouldn't mind having one, but I swore off anything CSMC sells due to a previous poor business deal with them (it would take too long to tell that tale). Now, if I was looking for a new S x S in that price range I think I would go with Merkel, Beretta or Fausti and forget about American made (reluctantly). Anyway, I am glad you got the problem solved.

Thanks for the report
Mike