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Pictures of everything on the barrel flats would be helpful here. It sounds as if you are describing a Birmingham proof mark. It is very likely that Whitney is not the maker, but a marketer of some one else's Birmingham production. I've never heard of at percussion gun that wasn't Twist construction.
(Percussion SxS guns are a lot of fun.)
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That would be, "an original percussion gun."
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Nice looking gun, I'm having trouble with the proofs, here's what I found: Crown over V is a London black powder proof mark Crown over R is a London black powder reproof mark 19.4 would be a Belgium bore size between 10 and 11 gauge Unknown mark looks Belgium Are the inside of the barrels any good, I usuall drop a really thin flashlight (size AAA battery) down the barrel to check it out. If you do that let it slide down at an angle so as not to break the flashlight. Have you been shooting it or are you planning to? They're fun to shoot and very satisfying to hunt with. Steve
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Rib is marked "Time Laminated Steel Twist" Bores measure .775" at the muzzle which = 10 ga., right?. Bores are dark with some light surface corrosion/pitting. Running a cleaning patch down the bores comes out light brown - rust color.
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Check out http://doublegunshop.com/info.htm on this site, as it's titled, it has all sorts of useful information. Your not getting much action on this post. If you can get better pictures of the proofs I'll lookup what I can find. That unknown proof looks very familiar, I'm thinking Belgium, but then apparently it has British proofs too. It may be the barels were sourced from Belgium. "Time Laminated Steel Twist" is just their marketing guys stating the obvious. BTW measure both barrels, it's quite common to have two different gauge barrels on the same gun. Steve
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The 'unknown' mark is the Belgian Provisional Proof and the other crown overs are inspector's marks. It's likely 'Fine', not 'Time' and as said probably a tradename gun. There are Whitney Hardwares in the NE
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Look here http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/archives/Proofmarks.pdfI can not see the proof marks well but compare your rams horns to the French provisional proof. Paris House EDIT! Sorry Drew, I did not see your post and defer to your opinion Mike
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Drew is spot on with the 'unknown' mark; that is the Belgian Liege Proof House Provisional mark. The Crown over 'R' mark is the Belgian rifled arms mark. If it no longer has any form of rifleing then it did once. Lagopus.....
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