Dinglefutz, you made me remember the last batch of my favorite duck loads that I loaded just before the no tox shot loads were mandated. I used to load worn AA empties with 1 1/4 ounces of soft #4 shot, a #114 Winchester wad and just enough Herco to reach 1150 to 1175 fps. It is a low pressure load, probably safe in any Damascus barrel, but deadly on big mallards and pheasants. In those days, I didn't have to use them on pheasants, but today I might. I have a few of those shells left, use them only for pattern tests on big Parkers and Foxes. I would feel very comfortable with those loads in a cylinder bore gun on preserve pheasants.