Mike, I just read the 2009 rules. It specifies a 0 to 1 second window for doubles, but doesn't state anything for regular trap. Lloyd went out in 2008, so the 0 to 1 rule might have appeared for the first time in those 2009 rules. I can't imagine how bouncing shot off the bunker roof can work in regular trap unless the shooter has memorized the entire sequence. After all, the birds don't come out at the same place. I think you are thinking of the doubles event. I would like to hear Wonko's take on this. Knowing a little about Lloyd's demeanor, I can't imagine he took all that bouncing of the shot too seriously. I think Lloyd was pulling your leg and got away with it.