Mike, I won't dare get into an argument with anyone about it but here's my take on the short ten: when we talk about the differences in diameter of the bores in thousanths it seems rather insignificant. However, observed side by side the 10 is way bigger than the 12. As a result, the shot column is considerably shorter and I am convinced that the shot string is much shorter than any 12 is capable of. 1 1/4 oz. in a 10 seems to hit birds like a pancake--all at once! I haven't measured it in any way other than through experience. I seldom load any heavier, there's no need to. If I told you how far away I've shot ducks I'd have to lie so you wouldn't think I was exaggerating..... smile


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