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Originally Posted By: GrandView
So..........they would have had some pretty strange fire-formed cases from their .22 Hornet firings?


They would have looked a lot different for sure. I will not be firing any Hornets in this to find out.

Now I have to go figure out how to form some brass for it.


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Glad to hear about the caliber. Much more interesting than just another hornet. With the high quality Jamison brass floating around, it is more desirable than it would have been a few years ago.

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The news is a little better than a Hornet and it is a nice rifle. Problem is it's correct a should be left alone.

It's unusual to find an original Lovell, most were R-2 or converted to R-2 or Maxim. My G&H is a Lovell as well but the brass for it will not chamber in the Niedner. The Niedner has a much tighter chamber and I'll have to do a little work to get stuff to fit.



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Thanks Pete, that's a new one on me. I have never heard of anything Hornet and Niedner. Niedner had his own line of .22 center-fire cartridges. In my database I have one (1) .22-hornet listed with a question mark next to the caliber.

Is there any historical reference associated with the above drawing?


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Back to the drawing board, more questions than answers.

The rifle is a lot like a .22-Lovell but it's not anywhere near the drawings I have of one. I ran up to John's he has a .22-Lovell and chamber cast and we compared them. Not the best picture but you can see the difference.





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Michael,

If you'll remember that G&H R2 Lovell is a brother to one of my R.G.Owen's as they both came out of the same attic covered in smoking tar. It's nice to see it again. I know that they miss each other greatly.

I love the Niedner.

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Gary, Thanks....easily fixed, just send the Owen to Alaska and I'll put them side by side in the rack ;-).


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I worked late last night and got 21 rounds loaded for the Niedner high-wall. Had to use the die in an arbor press to get the case into the die a little deeper then reduced the back half-inch diameter some on the lathe.

The loads were on the light side and did not stabilize the 45gr bullets. The 40gr seem to do better. I tried barrel rest and forearm rest. I need to make up about fifty with a lot stiffer loads and try again. Shooting season is fast getting away from me.






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