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Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
You know, there are a lot easier ways to come up with a 6lb double than paying a craftsman to fire up his mill and go after a model 21.

Just sayin'.


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I couldn't agree more, Ted. I like 21's for what they are. I wouldn't have the gumption to take on the process either. But, I do believe it could be done, if you know what I mean.


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A six pound 20 gauge Model 21 can be built without any milling of the water tables. Of course, the milled water tables are a nice touch if you have the time and expertise.

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They are good guns if you can keep the barrles together. The ribs get louse if they get hot.

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On two different M21's from the 1930's I many times have had the barrels so hot one couldn't touch them. The barrels are still together. Hmmmm.

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The hot barrels remark is just plain silly. Barrels are chopper lump with multiple dovetails joining them.

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The only dovetail joint on the M21 barrels is in the lump at the breech. The remainder of the barrels from that point forward are joined with soft solder, as are the ribs. The use of soft solder was necessary because the barrels were made of heat treated steel, and the heat of brazing them would have drawn the temper of the steel. I have often heard of M21 barrels separating, but many other guns have suffered the same problem, for whatever reason.

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Tom, I thought the dovetail shown in the photo on page 62 of Schwing showed a separate dovetail forward of the lumps. I see now from the numbered locations on the patent drawings that this is the same dovetail that joins the lumps. Thanks for the correction.

Jay

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