Thanks for the information. I have now obtained a book, J.P. Sauer & son, by Arfmann and Kallmeyr (2004), that has some of this same information. The book is divided into the Suhl era and the Eckernforde era.It mentions (p. 87-88) that the East German firm of VEB Ernst Thalmann advertised guns "Made by J.P. Sauer & son" in 1960, including a model 8 side by side shotgun (some of the advertising is illustrated), but that there was no longer any relationship to the actual Sauer family (they having escaped to West Germany). So I guess I have found the answer to my own question.

It does seem that there actually were two different "Sauer" Model 8 (VIII) shotguns produced after the war. One made by workers in Suhl (GDR) and one made by (approx. 70) escaped Sauer workers supplemented by local workers at the firm managed by the actual Sauer family in Eckernforde (northern West Germany). I assume the West German production was superior in quality if the GDR Merkel that I have is any indication of the quality of GDR Sauer production. It would be good to compare my West German Sauer Model VIII to an actual East German Sauer Model 8, rather than just to the Merkel (although I understand from your postings that the GDR Sauer Model 8 would be essentially the same gun as the GDR Merkel).

It does seem a shame that people might confuse the very high quality shotgun that I have in the Sauer Model VIII with its East German namesake...I mean, the Merkel is nice, but it can't compare to the West German version in the Sauer Model VIII.

By the way, the book claims that Suhl was originally occupied by American troops on April 3rd, 1945. The 18 Sauer buildings were burned down on April 18th, including the firm's archive, during the American occupation. The Soviet units didn't take over the occupation until July. They then immediately ordered Sauer to begin production of hunting rifles for higher ranking Soviet officers. The book claims 9,500 "hunting weapons" were produced at Suhl in 1946.

The Russian NKVD (secret police) arrested the remaining Sauer family member, Hans Sauer, in 1947 and he disappeared. They then expropriated J.P. Sauer and removed it from the register of companies, founded VEB Fortuna and then integrated this firm into Thalmann in 1951.

J.P. Sauer & son, by Arfmann and Kallmeyr (2004), is a good book with precise documentation.

Here in Canada, I think the Merkel shotguns were imported more freely from the GDR during the Cold War than they were in the United States and hence you see the GDR Merkel shotguns more often.

And after all that...I still haven't got a clue what the Merkel might be worth.

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