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Arrieta2 - I'm not sure, is "tird" and acronym or some double gun nomenclature or did you mean "turd" as in crap?? smile Just kidding ~ I'm exploring all the options.. and it seems that several of the British dealers the others on the forum have recommended do have many fine guns at prices that are better than stateside - now with that said; i understand your points about inspections and lack of recourse overseas as well as the hassle... Thanks for the input... I will look at what Quality Arms has too...

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OK guys shoot holes in this one W&C Scott Premier 20 gauge

This is the W&C Scott I mentioned in the beginning that went for well over $13K... I really wanted this one, but I felt it just wasn't worth that much $$$$..

Thoughts? Was I on the wrong track with this gun too??? Investment or Madness??? Is it really worth $13.8K + 15% ??

And I realize much of this goes back to what is it worth to the individual.

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Originally Posted By: ManOwar
OK guys shoot holes in this one W&C Scott Premier 20 gauge

This is the W&C Scott I mentioned in the beginning that went for well over $13K... I really wanted this one, but I felt it just wasn't worth that much $$$$..

Thoughts? Was I on the wrong track with this gun too??? Investment or Madness??? Is it really worth $13.8K + 15% ??

And I realize much of this goes back to what is it worth to the individual.



That is one beautiful gun.........it sold for the asking price so someone who had the money wanted it........what else can be said.......

As far as the gun quality goes, it is a "stand alone quality gun"....no doubt about that......very, very nice indeed, pride of ownership etc.......and it looks very original, except for the new second set of barrels of course and the leather pad......

As you said, any gun is only worth what someone will pay and that becomes a personal judgement call based on many factors..........




Doug



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Beautiful gun

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Damascus bbls: Bore diameter: left -.620, right -.620. Bore restrictions: left -.027, right -.012. Wall thickness: left -.017, right -.022.


but I would leave the Damascus barrels at home . . . .


Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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I was recently in the same situation as you, wanting a 'best' grade English s/s. I live in the UK, and visited a number of dealers, looking at several guns. It was several months and many views before I eventually 'bought'.
My advise would be to look at, handle, shoot if possible as many guns as possible. The reason is quite hard to put in words, but these guns are often old, and may have seen a lot of use, with many repairs, tightenings, possible abuse etc.
As you gain experience, you notice a difference in 'feel' from one to another. Some feel loose and well worn .... and clearly need money spending. Others are 'tight and pristine' - too much so in some cases. Some that are tight are just plain 'stiff' and not smooth to operate. My guess is that these have had a quick tighten and will be loose again soon.
Some however are neither overly tight nor loose, but silky smooth in operation. These often (usually even) have some genuine handling wear and usage marks, worn blueing, worn chequering, a few bruises on the stock, but the screw (pin) heads are undamaged, slots line up, wood to metal is tight etc. Often, these are the guns with around 100 years of genuine careful use and proper maintenance .... not bodged, not over-restored, not worn out. With one of these, you can restore to your own satisfaction, with your chosen craftsman, as much, or as little as you like.
In my view, this is the kind of gun to look for, and its only by getting plenty of experience that you may get to recognise what feels just plain worn out, what feels just freshly tightened and what feels just plain 'right'.
I ended up with a lovely gun, shows genuine wear and has had some properly done work over its 100 year life, but it feels as nice and smooth and 'genuine' as any gun I have ever handled, and having had it for a little while now, no nasty surprises have emerged.
Good luck, do plenty of looking and handling and follow your instincts!

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John,
I like your advice.

With kind regards,
Jani

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