Arrieta2 - I'm not sure, is "tird" and acronym or some double gun nomenclature or did you mean "turd" as in crap?? smile Just kidding ~ I'm exploring all the options.. and it seems that several of the British dealers the others on the forum have recommended do have many fine guns at prices that are better than stateside - now with that said; i understand your points about inspections and lack of recourse overseas as well as the hassle... Thanks for the input... I will look at what Quality Arms has too...