Originally Posted By: Stan
Originally Posted By: buzz
Originally Posted By: Stan
Originally Posted By: Fin2Feather
Sorry, but if you can't carry a 6-1/2 lb gun with one hand you need to spend your time in the gym, not in a bird cover.


After years of slogging through beaver swamps carrying a 7 to 9 1/2 lb. duck gun in one hand, a bag of dekes over my back, and sinking in the mud to my ankles every step and trying to keep from falling head fo'most in the water with the other hand, a 6 1/2 lb. gun in bird cover seems pretty light to me.

SRH
Unless one has grouse hunted in the Northwoods, one has little idea of what it is actually like. From reading Stan's assessment here, I'm pretty sure he has never hunted Ruffed Grouse in the Northwoods, because there is a huge difference in carrying a 7-9 lb gun through a swamp to a duck blind than carrying a 6 lb gun through an Alder swamp or an Aspen thicket ALL day long. I'm trying to be tactful here, but as a dedicated grouse hunter, and unless you are Paul Bunyan, the weight of a shotgun matters a lot for Grouse hunting. A 6 1/2 lb gun is manageable for most people in the Grouse woods. I prefer a gun closer to 6 lbs, even lighter would be better for me. But, I'm a doctor, and not a construction worker or a logger; if I used an axe all day long, I could probably wield an 8 lb 12 ga Model 21 in the Grouse woods, but the way things are for me, I'd rather use the 12 ga Model 21 in a duck blind, rather than an Alder swamp for Grouse and Woodcock.


I'll concede that one, buzz. I never have hunted grouse in the alder thickets ya'll describe. But, I'd like to someday. I do, however, hunt woodcock in some of the thickest bottoms imaginable. Almost impossible to get through in many places, due to saplings, myrtle bushes and briar patches. At the end of the day you look like you've been sorting out housecats in a burlap bag. I guess there's just something about the northwoods that makes a gun feel heavier. wink

SRH
Stan: That's ok, I'm not knowledgeable about some specific topics as well. One thing I failed to mention, is that many successful grouse hunters walk the woods in the 'ready' position almost all day. Hence the need for a light gun. A super grouse dog helps (just try to find one of them.....rarer than a less than 6lb 12 b!), but these birds just give the hunter a split second, a glimpse. It is really hard to kill the limit, and I lIken it to the Super Bowl of bird hunting. It takes a great dog and a great wingshot (with stamina) to be highly successful. As much as you like to hunt and shoot, I'm sure you would like it....once you figure the game out. I hope you give it a go sometime! You're sure to have some fun. Buzz


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