I love my sub bore guns but my favorite all around guns are 12's, particularly 2 inch and 2.5 inch guns. My 2 inch, 12's, weigh in at around 5 pounds, 5 once's and are a delight to carry and to shoot. Ammo is readily available with a little forethought.

My 2.5 inch guns each weigh less than 6.5 pounds but do have the fell of 12 bores but are still delightful to carry and shoot. I might add that these 12's weigh less than many 20's on the market today, including one very nice Italian 20 bore that I own.

IMO, a 20 bore should weigh no more than 5 pounds, 10 onces, or so, and be on a true 20 bore frame. Ditto for 28's, which I don't shoot as well as a 12 or 20, but that is just me.

Almost all my guns are true game guns, mostly from the UK, have DT's, straight grips and so on. Perfect guns in my opinion.