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 Also, Rigby is credited for the felt unpolished contrast. It is noted that for Damascus pattern welded tubes a preferred finish was achieved from either pickling, smoking or both Info from the 1853 Irish International Expo notes the French rollers took the pattern possibilities to new heights. It appears that there were examples at this Expo & I'm curious if the French displayed a similar pattern? Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Just a bit of French condescension  De La Cononnerie Ou Fabrication des Canons de FusilBy M. Ronchard-Siauve http://books.google.com/books?id=uedDAAAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PA202I would not take time to describe the means of producing all the varieties of Damas today known; that would require details too much long. I will say only that for this kind of work, Saint-Etienne is much more advanced than all the other factories. With the Expositon of London of 1861-1862, a barrel representing five different variety of Damas was about all this one could see, by visiting all the Expositions both of Birmingham and of London, while I presented eighteen varieties, and this is not all this can be done.
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 So the marks on the tubes are: Crown over CC Crown over LB Post 1856 Saint Etienne stamp of encircled Crown over Crossed Palms with 3 stars on the bottom? & JHR or JHJH on the lower rib? Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Thanks Raimey. Couldn't find a French CC or LB on Alain's site 
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No, I"m asking Dr. Hause. Anyone else think something different?
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What a neat gun. Have some brass cases made and have at it. What fun!
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  If L.B., it would have been L. Bernard. Another stab at closeups of the touchmarks. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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 And 'Ghove' is not 'choke'
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Drew, it may be Grove. After closer examination the letters on the lower rib are JBR for J.B. Rivolier. He must have added some effort.
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Verney-Carron has been there in Saint Etienne for some time. They were purported to be masters in pattern welded tubes and are noted to have adopted/advanced the "American invention choke", which was "perfected in England". Claude Verney-Carron was born in Dec. 1800 & expired in 1870 and I wonder what his quality control stamp might have been(Crown over CC)? I realize he name was Claude Verney but when he married Antoinette Carron in 1830 he hyphenated his last name.
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