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Because federal law considers you in possession of a firearm if you live in a residence where one is kept. There is no requirement of ownership. Also the caveat is that they have to assure that there is no access. The feds consider this accomplished if they are kept in a secure gunsafe in which only the owner has access to.

You missed the point entirely. I was not referring to the laws regarding the mentally ill.

It's a violent society compared to any other modern democracy. Fact. Americans choose laws to make a civil society according to their values. Fact. They live with majority rule as do Canadians, with all interest groups having agendas, even those who have their own truths. My agenda around gun ownership is probably similar to yours except Canadians have chosen differently about concealed carry and who should possess firearms; safe handling courses, character checks etc. Different countries, different choices. You live with yours and we with ours. Nothing is safe, nothing is certain, we'll always have nut cases.

I hate to be agreeing with Bill but I think he is absolutely right here. Especially the "violence as entertainment" part. First person shooter video games that dominate their leisure time between ages 10 and 20. I was thinking about this earlier today. I think they do get desensitized and while for most it's not big deal, for those falling over the edge into insanity they are acting out in the real world something they have done thousands of times already on their computers and gaming consoles.

I also don't have a solution but this. My ex and I will never buy our son a Playstation/ Nintendo/ Xbox and we fill his time with activities that aren't computer or video screen based.

Let make it perfectly clear here so nutjob appologists like nca225 doesn't get an opportunity to difuse this issue. Individuals judged to be insane were routinely locked up in mental institutions until the 1970s until they were judged to be no longer a threat to society and then released. This was SOP until the scumbab ACLU came along and argued this was "cruel and unusual" punishment and got the nut jobs released. It is impossible to get them back were they belong now which is behind bars where they are not a threat to society. Hence the carnage which we are seeing today.
Jim

I wasn't saying it was a good idea to turn crazy people loose, just that it happened. I wasn't endorsing the Atlantic article either. My point was to suggest the need to focus on the segment of the population doing the shooting. As for prescription drugs, by all means investigate the role they play and control them accordingly. I know their prescription is often trial and error. Better parenting would surely help. I'm reminded of the underwear bomber who was apprehended because his father reported him as dangerous. Parents are often in the best position to see someone going off the deep end, but only if they're engaged in their kid's lives.

If you don't mind....+1

They can steal guns if they are allowed to run free....that kid the other day STOLE the gun he shot those people with...

For Bill and nca225, consider this.

Perhaps the problem isn't the easy accessibility of guns but the untried and untested (except on now several generations of children) theories of child rearing espoused by the schools, the left and the lazy. Lots of guns lying around homes in the 1950's. not many school shootings, or mass shootings if any type.

Seems to me there is a correlation in the proliferation of mass shootings and the fundamental change in how we raised our kids that began in the late 1960's.

These changes included a shocking lack of consequences for behaviours that previously were considered unacceptable.

Also included the now discredited idea that "positive self esteem" could be acquired by hearing praise, rather than actual accomplishment.

The use of tv screens and computer monitors as babysitters.

Also the feminization of boys and young men that includes punishing them during their school days for exhibiting normal male behaviour and demanding they act like the girls.

Oh yeah, and with the rise of 2 income families, the idea that the parent's career and self actualization was more important than a commitment to raising the child properly.

Just saying.

I didn't miss the point entirely...or not even a little bit.

40 years ago these people would have been locked up for their natural lives....not running loose until they finally rape, maim or kill someone, and even then..a true wacko won't get the death penalty..they won't even go to prison...they go to a "hospital" until some bleeding heart doctor claims they are cured then are turned loose on the public again without doing a single day in prison.