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Originally Posted By: J.R.B.
nca666 isn't the only sick one. Anyone who exploits the deaths of these kids to further their socialist agenda is one sick mother effer.


The left is more then willing to kill 23000 unborn babies a week,exploiting the deaths 20 children to further their gun control efforts is nothing to their "never let a crisis go to waste" ideology . Sick bastards like Chris (nca225)will happily support those efforts and more to disarm the law abiding in the march to be dependent/controlled by 'mother government"


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Amen to that.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
For all the fulminations at this time, for all what some see as a continuous struggle against liberals or worse, there's an absolute guarantee nothing is going to change in the United States concerning gun owners' rights and freedoms. The Supreme Court has confirmed a constitutional right to bear arms, struck down restrictive ownership in Washington and Illinois, guns are permitted in some schools, citizens show up with AR-15s at political rallies. It's common to see pistols on hips and votes allowing concealed. Leaders will continue to be assassinated, massacres bring country to mourning in one of the world's strongest democracies but as sure as maple syrup comes from trees no one will take guns away from Americans. It is written. Fear not. Ask Jim. Those who downrate their fellow citizens, country and constitution do not long remain citizens of a great nation.


King:
I wish I could agree with your sentiments but the facts** get in the way.
The facts:
First off the ruling that firearms ownership is an individual right by the Supreme Court passed by just 1 vote. The subsequent rulings regarding private firearms ownership in Chicago and Washington DC passed the Supreme Court by 1 vote as well. Additionally, the liberal controlled cesspools in our Country like Chicago and Washington immediately passed local regulations that are so stringent,involved and expensive they've made the obtaining of a firearm for protection a virtual impossibility in their cities for the average person. Put bluntly these liberals have collectively thumbed their noses at the Supreme Court.
The Kenyan is one Supreme Court appointment away from reversing the above decisions and we fully expect him to get up to three additional appointments over the next 4 years. I expect these decisions to be reversed as well as an adoption of the UN Small Arms Treaty that will virtually prohibit the ownership of firearms by individuals in this Country. This will startout with a mandatory registration of all privately owned firearms, going down the crooked path your Country took, followed by a step by step confiscation program.
Whether American citizens will roll over as did the citizens in your Country, Great Britian,Australia etc. and permit this to happen remains to be seen.
Jim

**This is the primary reason I rarely comment on what has occurred politically in another country. I don't believe I have the necessary insight to understand what is actually going on.

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Originally Posted By: Replacement
I'd also like to weed them out from voting and from breeding, but that's not going to happen, either.

Replacement there was a program just like this in a so-called civilized society at one time. The program was called Eugenics and flourished for a time during the Nazi control of Germany. Mentally and physically deficient individual were simply rounded up and never seen again. If question; the governments response was the individual had unfortunately died. About 200,000 individual met there end this way before a stop was put to it. These individuals wern't Jews,or Gypsies or some other undesireable group from the Nazi's perspective they were just ordinary Germans with problems. Apparently you would have fit right in with the Nazis at that time.
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Originally Posted By: Replacement
I'd also like to weed them out from voting and from breeding, but that's not going to happen, either.

Replacement there was a program just like this in a so-called civilized society at one time. The program was called Eugenics and flourished for a time during the Nazi control of Germany. Mentally and physically deficient individual were simply rounded up and never seen again. If question; the governments response was the individual had unfortunately died. About 200,000 individual met there end this way before a stop was put to it. These individuals wern't Jews,or Gypsies or some other undesireable group from the Nazi's perspective they were just ordinary Germans with problems. Apparently you would have fit right in with the Nazis at that time.
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Originally Posted By: Replacement
I'd also like to weed them out from voting and from breeding, but that's not going to happen, either.

Replacement there was a program just like this in a so-called civilized society at one time. The program was called Eugenics and flourished for a time during the Nazi control of Germany. Mentally and physically deficient individuals were simply rounded up and,in some instances, never seen again. If questioned; the governments response was the individual had unfortunately died. About 70,000 individual met there end this way and another 400,000 were sterilized before a stop was put to it. These individuals wern't Jews,or Gypsies or some other undesireable group from the Nazi's perspective they were just ordinary Germans with problems. Apparently you would have fit right in with the Nazis at that time.
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ISS, thanks for the historical reference, but I was not advocating eugenics. Once again, you have demonstrated your faulty reasoning and lack of logical thought. You may now put me back on your "Ignore" list.

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Canadian lefties and righties and in-between organized and defeated the long-gun registry, Jim, unprecedented anywhere as far as I know.

The conservative Chief Justice Roberts, on the basis of his vote for Obamacare, proved to me the Court is not just another political institution but a court of law.

It had been assumed, remember, that conservative Justice Kennedy would have joined the liberals as he had on 25 other cases in 5-4 decisions. He voted conservative this time.

I believe it takes a very high standard to change a right enshrined in the constitution, and have faith the Court will do the right thing.

But the strongest hand is held by our citizens. In our case, a change of government from liberal to conservative with strong support over a wide range of the political spectrum said get rid of the registry---and it did.

No Court needed at any level. Have faith in your legislatures and constitution. They seem not only to be working but working well from the evidence above.


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Originally Posted By: Replacement
ISS, thanks for the historical reference, but I was not advocating eugenics. Once again, you have demonstrated your faulty reasoning and lack of logical thought. You may now put me back on your "Ignore" list.


Oh I see it's now clear to me. "Weeding them out from voting and breeding" has nothing to do with actually eliminating them. I guess you'd ship them to Madagascar just like Himmler proposed be done with the Jews. Or I guess this depends upon your definition of "weeding" ala Slick Willie. Well that didn't work out either. You don't deserve the dignity of being put on my Ignore List. Besides your idiotic attempts to libel me are a source of humor for all as you never have anything intelligent to post.
At least you learned a new word today which describes your aberrant thought process.
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