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"The conservative Chief Justice Roberts, on the basis of his vote for Obamacare, proved to me the Court is not just another political institution but a court of law."

I have my own (private) views as to why Roberts made this bizarre move but for now I'll keep them to myself.

I'll believe the second part of the above statement just as soon as one of the 3 leftist Bimbos breaks ranks and sides with the conservatives on some issue. Ruth Bader Ginsberg has gone so far as to state she doesn't even believe in the relevance of the U S Constitution. That alone as far as I'm concerned should get her impeached.


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"Weeding them out from voting and breeding" has nothing to do with actually eliminating them.


Exactly.

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Being privy to the criminal records of 3 generations of one family that I know makes the "not allowed to breed" idea a good one.

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Saw an interesting tidbit. Apparently, there was a time when it was straight forward and possible for a family member to commit a potentially dangerous person. Then, along comes clinton in the late nineties with...the patients bill of rights.

Particular attention is given to people who have mental health, developmental disabilities and substance abuse problems. Seems he insisted that they have more input on their 'healthcare'. Maybe more criminals bubble up from the slime, because libs insist on paving the way. Now it seems ocare comes up lacking in coverage for folks with mental health problems.

Neat trick huh nca. Don't mind some incidental issues if you can move the agenda forward. Merry Christmas.

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Your assessment about committment is correct Craig: It was a combination of efforts of far left liberal groups like the ACLU along with Liberal politicians that got the requirements changed.
I don't know what the tipping point for total disgust with Liberalism is going to be but I suspect we're going to find out in short order.
People like nca225 don't care about the truth all they care about is their own liberal agenda. If they can't refute what I and others post they resort to libel and name calling. Everyone on this forum is on to their game so they really don't get anywhere.
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Originally Posted By: craigd
Saw an interesting tidbit. Apparently, there was a time when it was straight forward and possible for a family member to commit a potentially dangerous person. Then, along comes clinton in the late nineties with...the patients bill of rights.

Particular attention is given to people who have mental health, developmental disabilities and substance abuse problems. Seems he insisted that they have more input on their 'healthcare'. Maybe more criminals bubble up from the slime, because libs insist on paving the way. Now it seems ocare comes up lacking in coverage for folks with mental health problems.

Neat trick huh nca. Don't mind some incidental issues if you can move the agenda forward. Merry Christmas.


Read this letter that was posted on the net showing the frustration of a mother with a child like the killer.
It is scary to think about all these ticking time bombs and parents with no place to turn to stop them.

"I am Adam Lanza's Mother"


http://gawker.com/5968818/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother

"We still don't know what's wrong with Michael. Autism spectrum, ADHD, Oppositional Defiant or Intermittent Explosive Disorder have all been tossed around at various meetings with probation officers and social workers and counselors and teachers and school administrators. He's been on a slew of antipsychotic and mood-altering pharmaceuticals, a Russian novel of behavioral plans. Nothing seems to work"

http://gawker.com/5968818/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother



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I am of course saddened and disgusted by today's tragic massacre. I pray for the victims and their families. What we saw today was pure depraved evil. And evil always finds a way to manifest itself.

Once again, an evil killer bent on destruction of the innocent utilized a tool. This time, the killer used guns to murder 27 people, mostly small defensless children. Cowardice is not a fitting description of the act. Eleven years ago, evil killers used box cutters to commandeer airplanes to kill 2996 innocents. If sheer numbers really mean anything when evil strikes, 100 times as many died then from the use of box cutters than died today from the use of guns.

But predictably, anytime a gun is used as the instrument of evil intent, the gun grabbers rear up and use the tragedy as an excuse for pursuing their agenda. Events today resulted in comments from nca225 that absolutely confirmed everything I ever said about him. I wish I had been wrong about him. I'd rather have not known for sure. But we certainly now know for sure.

The comments from nca225 today also serve as further proof of his abject stupidity. Just read his statements and his solutions to see the absurdity. If we adopted one of his solutions, that of banning those with low intelligence or mental defects from gun ownership, he would be the first to be so restricted.

Does this mental midget understand that the shooter stole the guns he used? Even they had been locked in a gun safe in his mother's home, what would prevent him from either stealing them from another place, or holding a knife to his mom's neck and forcing her to open her safe before murdering her? He also says he supports a ban on magazines with a capacity of 10 or more rounds. Does this idiot nca225 realize that the shooter did stop to reload before resuming the carnage? Is there really that much difference in time or end results if the shooter slapped two ten round mags into his Glock versus three seven round mags or four five round mags? Is nca225 saying there is an acceptable level of carnage? Does anyone really think the anti-gunners like him wouldn't call for lower and lower magazine limits each time some nutcase used a gun.

A good sniper in a well barricaded spot near a crowded venue could kill a lot of people with a single shot rifle before being taken down. The D.C. sniper several years ago killed 10 people one shot at a time. Yes, he used a semi-auto, but any groundhog rifle would have accomplished the same death toll. He was firing single well aimed rounds.

We already do restrict drug abusers, those adjudicated mentally defective, domestic violence abusers, convicted felons, etc. from gun ownership. There are laws in place but these killers do not respect the law. So nca225's moronic solution is to place more restrictions on the law abiding. The 20 year old killer today was not legally permitted to own a handgun. How well did that law work, nca225?

I, and the NRA of course, realize that all the gun laws in the world will not deter a determined killer. See that 9-11 death toll again. Check the body count at the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. How about Ted Bundy? He never fired a shot. Rarely does a serial killer use a gun. There are two unsolved mass murders within 20 miles of my home that killed 8 people. One killer used a knife, the other a hammer. Recently, an arsonist in Warren, Ohio killed a whole family by burning them to death. How many more examples do you need nca225?

The simple answer to that question is that it doesn't matter. nca225 is here to promote gun control. He, and others with the same agenda are always looking for some excuse to get the nose of the camel under the tent. No amount of new gun laws would ever be enough. Obama will again in the coming days call for bans on high capacity magazines and, even though the rifle was not used today, he will call for reinstatement of the Clinton Assault Rifle Ban. For starters. He told Professor John Lott at the University of Chicago that "people shouldn't be allowed to own guns." Period. But nca225 supports him and says new gun laws are up to politicians. Politicians like Obama and Joe Biden and Dianne Feinstein who would confiscate every single gun in the U.S. today if they could.

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I'd also like to weed them out from voting and from breeding, but that's not going to happen, either.


The above quote from Replacement is priceless. I immediately thought of nca225 who is a waste of good air. He is, as I said, an anti-gun, anti Second Amendment guy looking for acceptance on a firearms website. He does not care in the least that the killer today is a sick evil sociopath who could have, and would have, killed any of a dozen different ways. Lacking guns, he could have sloshed a five gallon can of gas into a classroom and then tossed in a lit match. nca225 is hell bent on seeing our Constitutional Right restricted. He wants to punish us for the actions of an evil criminal. But in typical Liberal fashion, he would be the first to protest severe sentencing or the death penalty for evil killers. He sees a connection between these massacres and the decline of unions. But the soul-less Athiest won't see any connection to restrictions on religious displays, or removing the Ten Commandments or prayer from schools.

nca225, you are one sick stupid bastard! The only kind thing I can say about you is that at least you have been honest enough to finally reveal your true reason for being here. There are a few others who are still pretending to be gun guys. All of them are Liberal Democrats. Surprise.


I brought this back to the top to once again remind folks how our Liberal Closet anti-gunners operate. nca225 was pretty prolific there for a couple days when he finally exposed himself as a true anti-gunner, even if much of what he posted was unintelligible and proof of his low I.Q. Now he has gone silent just like they (the other anti-gun Liberals who pretend to be gun guys) always do. But he will be back. And I'll be ready. Maybe he's just been busy trying to clean Obama-stains out of his blue dress.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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