I have shot both box and hand thrown birds. Both are tough games that require the most of the shooter and his gun. The other requirement is big bucks and the willingness to loose them. Pidgens, ducks, quail, and even Bambi are just animals. I can't say that I give a darn if the best thing that happens to a pidgen is he is hit jolt from an automotive coil and launched into the air with a strong spring. Lets worry about people and not a dumb animal.

Bill