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It could be that Mr. Kirkwood just didn't have enough output to generate the interest that the other makers of his time did. The Kirkwood "drilling" is a very scarce item, just like the Lefever "drilling".
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David Kirkwood is an American gunmaker I have not heard mentioned on here before. Can you direct us to some references about his guns?
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David Kirkwood is an American gunmaker I have not heard mentioned on here before. Can you direct us to some references about his guns? I would start with 'The Kirkwoods of Boston" by CDR Roy Gunther, "The Gun Report" January, 1992. I have a really poor copy of "The Unusual Kirkwood Story" from "The Sporting Goods Dealer" February, 1951. I've been looking for a good copy of this for years with little luck.
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My friend has a 3-bbl 12 ga shotgun. Were any of these made in the USA?
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It is high time that a comprehensive history of the Kirkwood guns and rifles was published in a contemporary venue. Somehow, although I have high asperations, I never can find the time to do such things! If anyone wants to take up the challenge, my small accumulation of Kirkwoods, two "drillings" one unfinished, and a double unfinished "paradox", as well as two different catalogs and some 20's vintage advertising, are available for study. I have a long time friend with a few "rare" Kirkwoods; whom I am sure would also cooperate in such a venture. Michael, I'm sure you know to whom I'm referring. The gauntlet has been tossed!
All the best, Mal
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That is one article that I would love to read. Long over due, and I for one hope that it gets done right.
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It is high time that a comprehensive history of the Kirkwood guns and rifles was published in a contemporary venue. Somehow, although I have high asperations, I never can find the time to do such things! If anyone wants to take up the challenge, my small accumulation of Kirkwoods, two "drillings" one unfinished, and a double unfinished "paradox", as well as two different catalogs and some 20's vintage advertising, are available for study. I have a long time friend with a few "rare" Kirkwoods; whom I am sure would also cooperate in such a venture. Michael, I'm sure you know to whom I'm referring. The gauntlet has been tossed!
All the best, Mal Mal, I could not agree more but my dance card is full and I see no letup in sight. Ten years ago I figured I’d knock out the custom rifle makers then turn my attention to the custom shotgun makers. I have a filing cabinet drawer full of custom shotgun maker info but little will see publication. There are several members of this BBS and ones I KNOW read this that could very well do the job. As you know my last great Kirkwood double went to your friend. I sent my Kirkwood file to one man in New York who copied it so I know there are folks with the info. Shooting & Fishing has a lot of Kirkwood info including articles by Margaret Kirkwood. I will share whatever I know with anyone who wants to tackle this job.
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Here are a couple pics of my Kirkwood Bros 10ga apart. It has steel barrels and the only proof marks are the ones shown on the barrels ahead of the flats. This gun is not like a lot of the cheaper "put your name on it" (ie Clarbrough sp?)guns from England that I have seen before. It is of higher quality and really a nice gun. Does anybody recognize the design as that of an English maker? I like to think the barrels were brought into the US and the rest of the gun made by Kirkwood, but I dont know. Ross  
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Have several Kirkwood guns at Terry Allen's for photos for
Double Gun Journal articles. Hopefully when photos are done
articles will be done-This is a very slow process.One or two
articles on M/L conversions and hammer guns. Another on Drillings
Mal, I would love to have any info you have. I have the Gunther article and the 1924 Kirkwood catalogue only.
Have 8 Kirkwoods conversion hammers and drillings
Reguards
Bill McPhail
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Those very simple locks seem almost identical to the LC Smith's, with two minor modifications: The main spring's location is rotated 180 degrees, fore on the Kirkwood and back on the Smith; the third bridle mounting screw is low on the Kirkwood (in a location vacated by the spring's relocation), while it is near the top of the Smith's lock.
Fred
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