I have an AYA No 4 deluxe 12 gauge and it is a fine gun in every respect. My gun has all the bells & whistles you would expect on a deluxe gun; nice wood, diamond grip, drop points, full coverage engraving, deluxe checkering, even a file-cut rib. I have never had any problems with the gun in any way. It produces very uniform patterns with No 5 and No 6 shot. I use it for pheasants and all other upland game except grouse. (It's really too nice for the grouse woods). I bought it secondhand for about half of its current price, so I wouldn't buy one as an investment. Also, for the price of a No 4 deluxe boxlock, you can almost buy a No 2 sidelock if you are buying new.