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Dave K,
Legislators in the U.S.A; including V.P.Biden would be well advised to consult With Canadian Government,for preference with P.M.Stephen Harper,re;the abject failure and excessive cost of the recently cancelled and destroyed Canadian Firearms,long gun, registration and ownership tracking system.The Canadian experience did little or nothing to reduce violent/organised crime.But it did result in the waste of several billion of dollars!
The cost of a similar legislation in the U.S.A would likely require a budget close to that of the Pentagon with little or no reduction in horrific crimes committed by irrational individuals.

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Very well said Roy Hebbes!


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Thanks, Roy. Really good advice. Biden only has to look over the fence to focus his judgement.

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Biden has had this pointed out to him for years "HE DOESN"T CARE" he wants Gun "Elimination" Period.
The only hopes we have are that enough Congressmen stand up against this regime of Obama & Biden. They aren't concerned with the cost.


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Originally Posted By: Roy Hebbes
Dave K,
Legislators in the U.S.A; including V.P.Biden would be well advised to consult With Canadian Government,for preference with P.M.Stephen Harper,re;the abject failure and excessive cost of the recently cancelled and destroyed Canadian Firearms registration and ownership tracking system....



I really don't think you folks have any idea how much money biden would be willing to borrow or print.

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There hasn't been mention of another factor in the defeat of the registry here. Media was all over the cost of the registry as it grew like topsy from projected hundred million or so to billions. It's a stretch to say it became household conversation but no one had difficulty grasping the issue in a hunting country: it was a colossal waste. For all the shooting sports' lobbying and protests, I'd venture that making the registry part of daily conversations with neighbours and friends had as much to do with the outcome as anything.

Money isn't everything. Citizens of our county opposed the provincial government and opposition parties bowing to the business community on where a Trans-Canada Highway bypass would go. All the money, ALL the politicians against them, they won. They filled halls, published cartoons in community newspapers, paid for 10 30-second spots a day on radio stations. No politician can stand up to that because they're not tied to money---they're tied to votes.

Unblushingly, I ran that campaign. Your great poet Whitman said there can't be great poets without great audiences. There can't be leaders without great followers who understand issues. In the example above, citizens put public safety ahead of party loyalties, before selfish business interests. That applies to the United States as it does to Canada. Biden's borrowing and printing can't thwart the will of a determined populace. Hope this helps.

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Well, I guess we need you to convince Joe biden that he's wrong, on our behalf. When would you like to start?


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Forget Biden. He has a lousy hand. Even if people believe pro wrestling is real and moon landing a fake, it shouldn't be all that difficult to bring around any doubters about registration.

It's heresy to say it but I'm not as much an advocate of the slippery slope re giving in to assault rifles and clips. I don't favour them. This is personal, not to say that an important principle isn't involved.

All the power and stately edifice of the federal government may think it has done something with legislation against assault and clips, and however cosmetic I think that is, it doesn't matter. It's a harder fight.

Registration should be easier to defeat. My thought reflects what I said earlier about the anticipated "balancing" I expected from Washington's intended get 'em this time program. I'd be careful not to dissipate energy and goodwill.

Choose your battles.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....it shouldn't be all that difficult to bring around any doubters about registration....

....Registration should be easier to defeat. My thought reflects what I said earlier about the anticipated "balancing"....

....Choose your battles.



C'mon King, in the same post. We gonna register or not. Is it worth doing or not. Sounds like the kerry approach. First will do it, or maybe not, or all gather around the camp fire and sing....

Not sure if you're for or against registration, but why again should a dad have to register grandpa's old duck gun to pass it on to his son.

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King,

they are called "magazines" NOT "clips" you sound like you have been listening to lots of Piers Morgan.

As to picking battles,NO thanks.We are NOT giving in to ANYTHING,the problem is not-and there is more then enough proof, the gun/magazine its the lack of security and dangerous "gun free zones".

As to convincing the Left/progressive/Biden side, forget it,any one that by admission is taking advantage of the tragedy in Newtown to further their gun grabbing agenda is not going to "negotiate" anything acceptable to a free people.
YOUR Canadian law's might be ok with you,but not us.How many handguns do you have King,and do you support others rights to own them ? How about semi auto rifles ?With "some" respect, You have NO clue about whats going on here in America and the progressive lefts agenda to disarm us.

"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson


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