S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
1 members (Stanton Hillis),
147
guests, and
0
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums10
Topics38,906
Posts550,615
Members14,458
|
Most Online1,344 Apr 29th, 2024
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 63
Sidelock
|
OP
Sidelock
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 63 |
Dear colleagues, I consider to buy a new AyA boxlock #4. Could you share your opinion about this? Is it worth? How is it comparing with the mass produced Brownings and Berettas? Thank you in advance.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 9,382 Likes: 1
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 9,382 Likes: 1 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 63
Sidelock
|
OP
Sidelock
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 63 |
Jagermeister Sorry, what do you mean? (Nie rozumiem Pana? O czym Pan mowi?)
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 63
Sidelock
|
OP
Sidelock
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 63 |
|
|
|
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Hello Ivans
I have a AYA mod 25 boxlock,it's the same inside. I like it very much.The mod #4 it's a quality gun with little longer barrels which I prefer),and for example in Denmark they love it for fieldhunting.You have to pay 10'000-15'000 dk kronor to get a used one.(if you can find one).
Regards Lennart
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,544
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,544 |
They are serviceable but lack refinement and the kind of attention to detail you will get on a mid-grade British boxlock non-ejector of the 1920s. The latter are better guns and better value.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 11,464 Likes: 133
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 11,464 Likes: 133 |
While the Brit boxlocks of the 1920's may well be better guns, they're also at least half a century older guns, and they were not built to withstand the pressures generated by modern American 2 3/4" shells. So whether an old Brit boxlock is a better gun depends on several factors, a very important one being what you intend to shoot in the gun.
Note that I write the above as a fan of British boxlocks and as the owner of a pair of 1933 vintage Army & Navy boxlocks made by Scott. But one does have to understand their limitations in the 21st century shooting world.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,544
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,544 |
They may well be harder to find than AYAs in Ukraine!
However,used with the right ammunition (and 2 1/2" shells are ample for all game shooting)they have no more limitations than a modern foreign version.
In fact, they are better made and less liable to shoot loose in my experience.
The point about ammunition is a good one - if availability is an issue in Ukraine - if only 70mm shells are available, be sure to buy a gun chambered for them.
|
|
|
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
I have an AYA No 4 deluxe 12 gauge and it is a fine gun in every respect. My gun has all the bells & whistles you would expect on a deluxe gun; nice wood, diamond grip, drop points, full coverage engraving, deluxe checkering, even a file-cut rib. I have never had any problems with the gun in any way. It produces very uniform patterns with No 5 and No 6 shot. I use it for pheasants and all other upland game except grouse. (It's really too nice for the grouse woods). I bought it secondhand for about half of its current price, so I wouldn't buy one as an investment. Also, for the price of a No 4 deluxe boxlock, you can almost buy a No 2 sidelock if you are buying new.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 63
Sidelock
|
OP
Sidelock
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 63 |
thanks to all for such active participation!
Somebody guess: I'm choosing between new AyA #4 and used British boxlock.
Let suppose that there is no problem with ammo - it's available and used guns are too.
I prefere the 16 ga.
So what to buy?
AyA - is new gun, corresponding to modern requirements. It can be made with custom stock etc.
British boxlock - perfectly, thoroughly, made.
I like both.
I'm flustrated.
Help me, please.
|
|
|
|
|