I am just the opposite Stan. I will do my research first and than pay a fair price, where and when I find it.

When buying a car or plane or boat, I will tell the dealer going in that if he will give me the price he will sell for, I will either write a check or walk.

Many times I have just shaken my head as I walked out of a dealership hearing a second price offered after I have said no to the first.

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