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#31267 03/17/07 11:40 AM
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Remington 209 Premier STS Primers have reappeared in Spokane County, and the price is up $6 per thousand from last year.

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There is no reason to buy Remington primers anymore. Fiocchis and Nobels work fine. Rios do as well, but expand the primer hole so only a Rio will fit the hull afterwards. Gamaliel, Recob's and Parks are sources for each. $90/5m + shipping and punitive hazmat. Order in bulk and save.

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My club sell Fiocchis cheap. I wouldn't have one.

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My club sell Fiocchis cheap. I wouldn't have one.


Why?


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My club sell Fiocchis cheap. I wouldn't have one.


Unless this is a buy domestic thing, my guess is you've never even tried them. Buy Remingtons and pay the price is your other choice.

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I once bought some 16-gauge Fiocchi ammunition, and the primers were so hard that a firing pin strike from my Field grade L.C. Smith would drive the primer up in the battery cup but not dent and ignite the primer! Over many years I've found the Remington primers to be the most old double gun friendly for me.

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Gee gents, lets try to keep some jobs in USA.

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I don't really ever recall seeing it discussed, but there is also a 'fit' issue and I am not speaking of the oversize primer kind of 'fit', rather the way that the primer from brand to brand 'fit' certain hulls. I do not much care for a primer that even slightly protrudes from the case head. With many of today's primer cups being steel, even a slight protrusion will end up making a rather noticable set of vertical marks on the breech face. Used to be that battery cups were non ferris, some still are, but if they are steel .. I want a nice 'fit' meaning flush with the head or just below, thank you.

Remington primers provide a good 'fit' in a variety of modern 209 sized hulls.

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We get all types over here, but I do have to say we seem to have more primer 'issues' than I can recall in the last thirty years.Rio do seem to be the major culprit and if you believe the press articles they are the biggest manufacturer in Europe.So may be they should look at quality rather than quantity.Most problems seem to identify with the steel cups.No problem with Copper cups or Winchester and others Brass cups.FWIW.

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I've used upwards of 20K Fiocchi 616's in a variety of gauges, hulls, and guns during the past year or so. Not a single FTF or fitment issue.

Keep the price close and I'll buy Winchester or Remington too, but at $90 a sleeve for the Fiocchi's vs. $144 for the Remington 209's, there's no question what I'll be using.


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